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Re: Jones of Bray Wicklow
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 30 January 18 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Anne Fanning was the informant, so looks like an error on the part of the Registrar.
Good spot Sinann - the son is listed on army and census records so correct
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Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
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Re: Jones of Bray Wicklow
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 01 February 18 15:32 GMT (UK) »
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My Great Grandma's name was Elizabeth and she married Arthur Heartfield in Dublin. They where both living in Portobello Barracks. He was a soldier in the ASC but don't know what Elizabeth was doing there

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Caroline


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Thank you so much can't believe what you have found. I have there marriage certificate and also my Great Grandfathers Army papers which showed her name as Jones but my Auntie always said it was Soames or something like that which with your info sounds right. Again thank you

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Re: Jones of Bray Wicklow
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 01 February 18 19:45 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for the information, I can't believe what you have found. My Auntie always said it was Soames but on my Great Grandfather Army papers they put Jones. Does any one know how I can find out what they where doing at Portobello Barracks. My Great Grandfather was stationed there but why was my Great Grandma there?
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Re: Jones of Bray Wicklow
« Reply #12 on: Friday 02 February 18 11:40 GMT (UK) »
In searching for someone else recently I came across a family that was not in the army but were caterers for the officers in various locations. There were probably several roles that people did that were not army roles.
As Elizabeth stated her father was a farmer it's unlikely that they were an army family

I have had another idea though - I wonder was she married twice as Bessie is often a nickname for Elizabeth?

This marriage (previously given)
 LINK on Feb 11 1880 of Bessie JOANES to James SOAMES Gunner RHA I thought was her sister

What if she was married twice? even though she is shown as a spinster on the marriage record to Arthur HEARTFIELD

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Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder


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Re: Jones of Bray Wicklow
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 04 February 18 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your info. As far as I know she was only married to my Great Grandfather as on her marriage certificate she was a spinster.I have a photo of a lady with a soldier who isn't my Great Grandfather and was told it was Elizabeth but I dont think it is, so could it be her Sister or brother? She has a black dress on and on the pocket is a harp
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Caroline
 

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Re: Jones of Bray Wicklow
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 12:01 GMT (UK) »
It could be a sister but it is an interesting match
Bessie is most often Elizabeth but could be short for another name or used in its own right

If your Aunt was aware of SOAMES and JONES it may be that she was married twice; it could even be that she never told Arthur! or that the record keep assumed spinster.  Then the photo could be of her. If you posted the photo someone maybe able to identify the uniform and see if it could be a Gunner in RHA as James SOAMES was described.

Unfortunately it still doesn't help locate Elizabeth's birth and family but at least you have a father's name at this point
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Portobello Barracks
« Reply #15 on: Friday 02 March 18 20:57 GMT (UK) »
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Can anyone point me in the right direction please. I'm trying to find some information about the residents living there ie soldiers around 1880. Are there any records and if so where are they held?
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Re: Portobello Barracks
« Reply #16 on: Friday 02 March 18 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Which country/ county / town are these particular barracks in?
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Re: Portobello Barracks
« Reply #17 on: Friday 02 March 18 21:15 GMT (UK) »
Which country/ county / town are these particular barracks in?

I presume you mean Dublin?

Do you  have any names?

CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.