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Re: Josephine Ruane Death
« Reply #9 on: Friday 26 January 18 00:12 GMT (UK) »
A*try has:
   Alfred Thomas Howard
   Josephine Luane
Marriage Date:   31 Dec 1926
Marriage Place:   Queensland
Registration Place:   Queensland
Registration Year:   1927
Registration Number:   000474
Page Number:   1892

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Re: Josephine Ruane Death
« Reply #10 on: Friday 26 January 18 00:16 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks.........you are all amazing!

My friend will be well pleased.

The long unsolved mystery of her grandmother can now be put to bed.

Thank you thank you thank you.
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Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: Josephine Ruane Death
« Reply #11 on: Friday 26 January 18 00:18 GMT (UK) »
A*try has:
   Alfred Thomas Howard
   Josephine Luane
Marriage Date:   31 Dec 1926
Marriage Place:   Queensland
Registration Place:   Queensland
Registration Year:   1927
Registration Number:   000474
Page Number:   1892

Maureen

1927 #C474 Josephine Luane and Alfred Thomas Howard properly Thomas Roper

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Re: Josephine Ruane Death
« Reply #12 on: Friday 26 January 18 00:22 GMT (UK) »
Another twist to the story, Maureen!
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: Josephine Ruane Death
« Reply #13 on: Friday 26 January 18 00:26 GMT (UK) »
Good heavens!

That explains why I was having problems finding them on the Electoral Rolls....they're listed as Josephine and Thomas ROPER. ::)

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Re: Josephine Ruane Death
« Reply #14 on: Friday 26 January 18 01:01 GMT (UK) »
Qld marriage: 1893 #C991 Thomas ROPER and Catherine WILLIAMS
Qld birth: 1893 #C6387 Thomas ROPER; Father-Thomas; Mother-Catherine WILLIAMS
Qld death (Ros has provided the link to funeral notice): 1949 #C752 Alfred Thomas HOWARD; Father-Thomas ROPER; Mother-Catherine WILLIAMS

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Re: Josephine Ruane Death
« Reply #15 on: Friday 26 January 18 01:34 GMT (UK) »
Good work Debra.

Did the GIESE family make an effort to find Josephine if she went missing?

WW2 enlistment
HOWARD Alfred : Service Number - Q55036 : Date of birth - 29 Apr 1893 : Place of birth - Charters Towers QLD : Place of enlistment - Townsville QLD : Next of Kin - HOWARD Josephine

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Re: Josephine Ruane Death
« Reply #16 on: Friday 26 January 18 03:50 GMT (UK) »
This news item is about the application for divorce by Thomas ROPER.
His wife Catherine had been committing adultery with Richard Charles Henry HOWARD.
1905.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/171570573

It is a very complex tale ::) An infant is mentioned in 1893 and one assumes this is Alfred/Thomas.

There are at least two other births to Catherine nee WILLIAMS in the ROPER surname in QLD.

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Re: Josephine Ruane Death
« Reply #17 on: Friday 26 January 18 04:10 GMT (UK) »
Catherine, the mother of Alfred, died in 1925

1925   C4679 Catherine HOWARD
Parents Frederick WILLIAMS & Mary Ann BURNS

Richard Charles Henry HOWARD and Catherine first appear on the McKay E. Roll in 1908.
He is a painter at Wood Street.
She H D

Alfred seems to continue to use the name ROPER in the earlier years and is on the 1916 to 1919 McKay Electoral Rolls
Alfred ROPER
Address Federal Hotel, McKay.
Painter.
No others of the surname there.

Despite this appearanc on he Roll, he seems also to have enlisted for WW1 as Alfred HOWARD His file is digitised. He had a nasty illness whilst an enlisted man.

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ListingReports/ItemsListing.aspx

His mother, Mrs C HOWARD had word of him in in England 1917
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/173700624

And he was wounded 1917
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/173708280

This chap who died in 1963 perhaps was a half brother to Alfred. 
1963   C3939 William Ruben   HOWARD
Parents Richard Charles Henry Kate WILLIAMS

There are many Electoral Roll entries and other news items connecting these people, but perhaps not really relevant to OP's inquiry.

Can be all typed up if required ;D

Sue
 



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