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Re: Illegible birthplace, 1851 census
« Reply #9 on: Friday 26 January 18 10:19 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately Robert Millar Strathern died aged 26 in 1835 (buried St James Westminster 10 May 1835) so no census entries for him.

He was a tailor, of Portland St, according to the 1832 baptism of daughter Alice.  Abode was Kempís Court by the time of his death, per burial register.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Illegible birthplace, 1851 census
« Reply #10 on: Friday 26 January 18 10:21 GMT (UK) »
A book search shows up a place called Rosefini

MDunder, John Jobson, Esq; of RoseFini, to Miss Stevenson, of Dundee. fo. 6. Lord Viscount Montague, to Miss Hero Mauby, daughter of Thomas Mau# ts; of Bead's Hall, county of Essex. 7. At Dundee, the Rev. Patrick Mac F, one of the ministers of that town, to * Agnes Gibson, daughter of the late * John Gibson, minister of ...

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zl4AAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA143&lpg=PA143&dq=Rosefinie+scotland&source=bl&ots=s1KsbXME1v&sig=B-4sBBhuMlTOPIex53Qa4yhF7n4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwif_4Dis_XYAhWpA8AKHft4CNAQ6AEILTAB#v=onepage&q=Rosefinie%20scotland&f=false

But I can't find anything about where it is
McClean, Kelly, Murray, Higgins, McAnulty (McNulty, Conalty, Kinolty), Morgan, Rafferty, McPolin (All Co Down, Ireland) Bowman, Hooper(Yorkshire)

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Re: Illegible birthplace, 1851 census
« Reply #11 on: Friday 26 January 18 10:24 GMT (UK) »
A book search shows up a place called Rosefini

MDunder, John Jobson, Esq; of RoseFini, to Miss Stevenson, of Dundee. fo. 6. Lord Viscount Montague, to Miss Hero Mauby, daughter of Thomas Mau# ts; of Bead's Hall, county of Essex. 7. At Dundee, the Rev. Patrick Mac F, one of the ministers of that town, to * Agnes Gibson, daughter of the late * John Gibson, minister of ...

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zl4AAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA143&lpg=PA143&dq=Rosefinie+scotland&source=bl&ots=s1KsbXME1v&sig=B-4sBBhuMlTOPIex53Qa4yhF7n4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwif_4Dis_XYAhWpA8AKHft4CNAQ6AEILTAB#v=onepage&q=Rosefinie%20scotland&f=false

But I can't find anything about where it is

Looks like an OCR error - it seems to me to be Rosemount in the underlying document.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Illegible birthplace, 1851 census
« Reply #12 on: Friday 26 January 18 11:18 GMT (UK) »
I see something like 'Rossfinic'  ??? rather than 'Rosefinie'.

ADDED: and this google book excerpt mentions Rosefinnick in Ayrshire
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ler/
and this
http://digital.nls.uk/directories/browse/archive/90670369?mode=transcription
see Fenwick on p 326
http://digital.nls.uk/directories/browse/archive/90673933
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Illegible birthplace, 1851 census
« Reply #13 on: Friday 26 January 18 12:11 GMT (UK) »
"The lands of Fenwick....appear to have been divided into two holdings "Ross-Finnick and Wattis-Finnick""


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Re: Illegible birthplace, 1851 census
« Reply #14 on: Friday 26 January 18 12:23 GMT (UK) »
ScotlandsPeople has the baptism of an Alexander McKenzie in Fenwick in 1804: parents John McKenzie and Elizabeth Stevenson

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Re: Illegible birthplace, 1851 census
« Reply #15 on: Friday 26 January 18 12:26 GMT (UK) »
This may be of interest, although I couldn't spot Ross Finnick:

 http://maps.nls.uk/view/74488611

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Re: Illegible birthplace, 1851 census
« Reply #16 on: Friday 26 January 18 12:31 GMT (UK) »
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Illegible birthplace, 1851 census
« Reply #17 on: Friday 26 January 18 13:30 GMT (UK) »
Excellent bit of sleuthing ShaunJ and everyone - here's the image of that 1804 baptism from Fenwick, Ayrshire. This Alexander was indeed born in Ross / Rose Fenwick. I think we have our answer.
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