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Re: What car is this? Jenolan Caves N.S.W. 1916
« Reply #45 on: Monday 29 January 18 11:01 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Lee,  I'll have a look at that one.

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Re: What car is this? Jenolan Caves N.S.W. 1916
« Reply #46 on: Monday 29 January 18 11:51 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your second reply Malky.  Just a couple of observations - you mentioned in your first post that "door handles on exterior were wrong"  I can't see any exterior door handles only hinges.
You also mentioned "ten spoke wheels -wrong"  I believe the car on the postcard has 12 spoke wheels.  Do these 2 pertinent points alter your thoughts?

Your estimate of late 1890's early 1900's is interesting.  Wiggy's excellent restoration reveals a
car that looks quite new to me and given the date of January 1916 the car would be almost 16 years old if it was manufactured in the early 1900's.  Given the rough hilly terrain of the Blue Mountains at that time with some unsealed roads and the added hazard of kangaroos I would imagine a car of that age would have been replaced within that time with a later model.
 
Will further research the Talbots to see what can be found, you have certainly given me some
key features to look out for.

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Re: What car is this? Jenolan Caves N.S.W. 1916
« Reply #47 on: Monday 29 January 18 15:27 GMT (UK) »
Bodywork in those days was custom built to customers requirements, these cars will have been adapted to carry the extra passengers, possibly by a local coach builder.

The only reliable guide is the shape of the radiator and shell, the bonnet and scuttle, and possibly, if you can see them the front dumb irons and springs.

Mike



Added, its japeflakes photo that has 10 spoke wheels, I think we are discussing the photo  in the original post

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Re: What car is this? Jenolan Caves N.S.W. 1916
« Reply #48 on: Monday 29 January 18 15:57 GMT (UK) »
Je, "I can't see any exterior door handles only hinges." If you look at the front and rear door, you will see a lever lock latch. These are pulled/slid towards the front of the car to open the doors.

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Re: What car is this? Jenolan Caves N.S.W. 1916
« Reply #49 on: Monday 29 January 18 20:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Humpy radiator suggests Talbot, bolt through the middle of the radiator confirms it, and scuttle dates it to cca 1912/13. Regards

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Re: What car is this? Jenolan Caves N.S.W. 1916
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 30 January 18 00:37 GMT (UK) »
Mike,  Thanks for the explanation, good to know those details. :D

          Yes, I think Malky may have been looking at the photo Japeflakes posted when he gave his
          initial opinion. 

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Re: What car is this? Jenolan Caves N.S.W. 1916
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 30 January 18 03:57 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou for pointing those out Malky.

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Re: What car is this? Jenolan Caves N.S.W. 1916
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 30 January 18 05:29 GMT (UK) »
You have made my day Vintman,  ;D  Thankyou for confirming that the car is a Talbot and the date
confirms my guess that it was later than the early 1900's.  Thanks also for the link, you could get lost on that for a few hours. :D

Regards,
Jen.
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Re: What car is this? Jenolan Caves N.S.W. 1916
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 07:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,  would like to thank all who joined in this thread, restored the photo and offered great help
      along the way.  It has been a very interesting thread with a touch of humour thrown in ;D
      Thanks Vintman you gave me the answer I was looking for in less than one and half lines :D

Regards to all
Jen.
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Gibbs   S.Aust. & Queensland
Jennings NSW, Australia
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Hampshire  Stepney, Middlesex & Hampshire
Goddard,  Isle of Wight
Cushen, Isle of Wight
Keys,  Tyrone Ireland & NSW Australia