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Re: George Charles Adams and Jessie Isabel Helme
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 27 January 18 11:36 GMT (UK) »
Doesn't make sense does it if the probate for both parents after 1939 gives her as Adams a spinster.

She reverted to her maiden name?  But again she wouldn't be a spinster. 

Don't see a marriage for her. 
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Re: George Charles Adams and Jessie Isabel Helme
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 27 January 18 11:38 GMT (UK) »
She's married on the 1939 Register. As I say, what's confused me are the probate records for her parents, both of which refer to her as Maud Frances Christabel Adams, and as a spinster, coupled with the fact I can't locate a marriage for her.

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Re: George Charles Adams and Jessie Isabel Helme
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 27 January 18 11:55 GMT (UK) »
Interesting puzzle isn't it. 

Do you have the death certificate for her as Gregson?

Would have been a late marriage if it was after 1951 but if she is down as married in 1939 it implies the marriage was before that.  Can't work it out. 

No Gregson/Adams children I suppose.  Who was Mr Gregson  ???

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Re: George Charles Adams and Jessie Isabel Helme
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 27 January 18 12:04 GMT (UK) »
Long shot but could look for a Mr Gregson death in the same area as Maud and see if there is a probate record that mentions her. 
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Re: George Charles Adams and Jessie Isabel Helme
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 27 January 18 12:06 GMT (UK) »
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Re: George Charles Adams and Jessie Isabel Helme
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 27 January 18 12:22 GMT (UK) »
Which death in 1969 have you got for her?


Like everyone else I can't see a marriage either  ???

I had seen this death but wasn't sure as no middle names and yob 1893 not 1894  :-\

Maud Gregson Age:   76
Birth Date:   26 Jul 1893
Dec 1969    Bucklow  Volume:   10a Page:   439


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Re: George Charles Adams and Jessie Isabel Helme
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 27 January 18 14:11 GMT (UK) »
She died on 13th Dec. 1969, so the probate records are in 1970. She appears under Gregson with a cross-reference to Adams. Under Adams it says "Adams or Gregson", and her address is given as Green Bank, Harboro Road, Ashton-on-Mersey, Sale.

It's possible that a) she was married abroad and b) she married a military person, which would explain why she's living with her parents in 1939. Her father was a retired solicitor so maybe she was married to an officer ? The suggestion to trawl through the probate records to see if there are any matches for a Gregson in that area or at that address is a good one. I'll also check the records for war dead, in case I can find something there. I don't think they had any children - there's nothing on the birth indices for a Gregson with mother's maiden name of Adams.

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Re: George Charles Adams and Jessie Isabel Helme
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 27 January 18 14:13 GMT (UK) »
The probate records for both her parents refer to her as Adams and a spinster. She died in 1969.

Maybe their wills were written before she 'married'  :-\
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Re: George Charles Adams and Jessie Isabel Helme
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 27 January 18 14:20 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that thought had occured to me too. On the other hand, her father was a retired solicitor, and you might have thought that he would have kept his and his wife's wills up to date. :)