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Re: John Keates
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 27 January 18 19:02 GMT (UK) »
It took a while to find Matthew and Mary transcribed as Harkins in 1871 3483 /7/7
but I am confused now. Have I got the right one? I thought you had them as you say they were grocers.  :-\
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Re: John Keates
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 27 January 18 19:12 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for John Keates. He married Elizabeth Ann Hibbard Caudwell in January 1872 in Ilkeston, Derbyshire. He was shown as age 30.

I found a baptism for Annie Mary Keates
baptised 8th June 1873
Whaley Thorns, Derbyshire
Father: John Keates
Mother: Elizabeth keates

GRO record shows her birth March quarter 1872 mmn Hibbard.

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Re: John Keates
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 27 January 18 19:31 GMT (UK) »
You have probably got the correct Hawkins, mine was me grabbing at straws in desperation. The marriage certificate shows Mary Overton Hawkins as one of the witnesses. I could not understand how a labourer would have a grocer and his wife as witnesses if there was no family connection!
Thank you for the help re:- 1871 census, I will investigate. Hopefully it will point me in the correct direction.

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Re: John Keates
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 01 February 18 09:23 GMT (UK) »
Hiya and welcome to RootsChat

John may have been illegitimate which might be why you cant find him with his father James there is a birth registered 1842 Basford of a John Keys no mothers maiden name given

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Re: John Keates
« Reply #13 on: Monday 05 February 18 20:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Willow,
I have looked up John Keys b1842 Basford Nottinghamshire and it would appear that he also dies in 1842! Unless I have not found the same John Keys as you. Thanks for your help, much appreciated.

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Re: John Keates
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 11:39 GMT (UK) »
I'd missed that one but I have now found the death for John 1877 in Mansfield but it gives his age as 55 which would make him born about 1822 not 1842 as we were looking for

There is a baptism of a John Keats 21.12.1823 Stinsford Dorset parents James and Rachel this is the only one I can find so far with a father called James but I am having no luck at all finding him with his father on a census

Found him with his wife Mary in all the census so it isn't him

John buried 31.7.1877 All Hallows church Gedling Nottinghamshire

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Re: John Keates
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Very interestingly I found this

7.4.1871 St Peters Church Derby Derbyshire John Keates father James married Sarah Johnson father George

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Re: John Keates
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 12:49 GMT (UK) »
Very interestingly I found this

7.4.1871 St Peters Church Derby Derbyshire John Keates father James married Sarah Johnson father George

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Should this be 1851?
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Re: John Keates
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 12:51 GMT (UK) »
Duhhh! yes 1851

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