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Offline Canuc

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A date for Ellen Mellon nee Murphy b1880
« on: Saturday 27 January 18 18:53 GMT (UK) »
Ellen is in the 1881 census aged 9months. The photo is annotated 1890 but this does not look like a ten year old, any thoughts on the date please.

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Re: A date for Ellen Mellon nee Murphy b1880
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 January 18 12:11 GMT (UK) »
Is it the transcription that shows 9 months, perhaps it's meant to be aged 19.  As the Ellen in the photograph is obviously married, she is certainly more than 10 years old!

Perhaps you could give us the census reference.

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Re: A date for Ellen Mellon nee Murphy b1880
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 January 18 12:17 GMT (UK) »
Looks like late 1890s to me.

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Re: A date for Ellen Mellon nee Murphy b1880
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 January 18 12:28 GMT (UK) »
Ellen's Census entry RG/11 p892 f105 pg19. Ellen was married Aug 1898.

The handwriting along the bottom is my grandmother's, granddad was best mates with his Mellon cousin, she wrote these notes in later life and she's close enough that I can normally unravel but she's not generally spot on.
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Wilson, Wright, Morely, Morris (Jewish blood and a name change in there somewhere, but who and when?)
James, Driscoll, Collins, Murphy (all end up in Ireland far too quickly)
Sewell (Bexley, Kent)
Harrison, Higginson, Mitchell - Sussex
Tench, Ireland
Hogg,

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Re: A date for Ellen Mellon nee Murphy b1880
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 January 18 12:52 GMT (UK) »
I've got a very similar one that was dated 1895-8.

I'll try and find it.
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Re: A date for Ellen Mellon nee Murphy b1880
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 January 18 12:55 GMT (UK) »
I agree...mid/late 1890s.
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Re: A date for Ellen Mellon nee Murphy b1880
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 January 18 15:40 GMT (UK) »
Ellen's Census entry RG/11 p892 f105 pg19. Ellen was married Aug 1898.


Probably an engagement or pre-marriage  photo then. What do you think, Carol?

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Re: A date for Ellen Mellon nee Murphy b1880
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 January 18 15:51 GMT (UK) »
Yes it very well could be Gadget..she looks about 18ish...I'm sticking with the date offered...the sleeves got bigger towards the end of the 1890s and this young lady's sleeves look quite big.
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Re: A date for Ellen Mellon nee Murphy b1880
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 January 18 23:53 GMT (UK) »
Thank you one and all. Everything suggested is reasonable, and I think I'm looking at a teenage 3xGrt Aunt, so I'll run with a mid to late 1890s date range.

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Hetherington (William - born England Aprox 1834 Salford, Cabinet Maker, died Dublin - Father also William born Ireland),
Wilson, Wright, Morely, Morris (Jewish blood and a name change in there somewhere, but who and when?)
James, Driscoll, Collins, Murphy (all end up in Ireland far too quickly)
Sewell (Bexley, Kent)
Harrison, Higginson, Mitchell - Sussex
Tench, Ireland
Hogg,