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Offline Jamesk17

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TOM family ~1780 St Columb Major
« on: Sunday 28 January 18 00:16 GMT (UK) »
Can someone help with piecing together this family...

I am tracing back from Alice Tom, wife of Thomas Mathews (married 1802, St Columb Major)

1851 census at SCM:

Alice Mathews (widow) 71 b~1780 St Dennis, Cornwall
Rebecca Tom (sister) 64 b~1787 Motcombe, Cornwall

1841 census at SCM:

Allis Mathews (widow) 60 b~1781 Cornwall
Mary Tom 60 b~ 1781 Cornwall
Rebecca Tom 50 b~1791 Cornwall

1) Alice... can only find one baptism for this time and location - 27 Dec 1778 at St Dennis, daughter of John Tom & Mary. This seems ok, just a little earlier that would match.

2) Rebecca... found burial - 28 Feb 1857 SCM age 72 - so birth 1785. This is also a few years earlier than in the census records. The issue here is that Google informs me that "Motcombe" is not in Cornwall but in Dorset, and is 140 miles from SCM, so seems unlikely it is actually here she was born. If it was, the only baptism record I can find is 1787 which wouldn't be too bad for the year, but the parents are John Tombs and Jane. Perhaps there is a small place near to SMC that could have been mis-spelled, but looking on the map doesn't provide any hints.

3) Mary... death found 1843 SCM, seems likely to be the other sister as she's not on the 1851 census with the other two as in 1841. Born ~1781 but no idea where.

4) Don't know when Thomas Mathews (husband of Alice) died, sometime 1802-1841.

5) Can anything more be found about the parents?

I expect there are some whimsical spellings that may be the reason for this being particularly tricky to find records (and probably also that there aren't many at this time). I am already aware of Tomm and Allis.

Any advice and help appreciated...






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Re: TOM family ~1780 St Columb Major
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 January 18 12:55 GMT (UK) »
Remember the 1841 census age was rounded down to the nearest 5. Ages on other records were not always accurate.

John Tom married Mary Hoar 17 May 1777 St Denys, St Dennis, Cornwall

Children baptisms of John Tom/Tomm & Mary

Elisabeth Tom 12 Oct 1777 St Dennis, Cornwall
Alice Tom 27 Dec 1778                ditto   

Mary Tomm 20 Nov 1780 Saint Columb Major, Cornwall
Rebecca Tomm 16 Sep 1787 Saint Columb Major, Cornwall

Free Reg has several more baptisms there after 1780, 2 more Tomm the rest Tom, one family tree has 9 children for this family. There are also burials on Free Reg.

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Re: TOM family ~1780 St Columb Major
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 January 18 13:07 GMT (UK) »
Might be worth having a look here http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/

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Re: TOM family ~1780 St Columb Major
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 January 18 13:08 GMT (UK) »
I expect there are some whimsical spellings that may be the reason for this being particularly tricky to find records (and probably also that there aren't many at this time). I am already aware of Tomm and Allis.
I have a Tom family from St Ervan as ancestors, sometimes spelled Tomes or Thomes...
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Re: TOM family ~1780 St Columb Major
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 January 18 15:34 GMT (UK) »
if you check the census return for 1851instead of a transcription, it says St Columb for place of birth for Rebecca.

Burial for Thomas Matthews 67 18 Feb 1836 abode Rosevannion which is the same as on the last 2 baptisms to Thomas & Alice.

1861 census has Alice as 83 so good match for the baptism.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb