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Re: May E Ballard
« Reply #18 on: Monday 29 January 18 09:20 GMT (UK) »
I wonder whether there is any link to Norwich-born Eva Burdett (c1887), in service in Elm Park Gardens? 

I agree the set-up in the Grove household looks like a cover for unmarried cohabitation.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: May E Ballard
« Reply #19 on: Monday 29 January 18 09:25 GMT (UK) »
Hello Rosie,
I totally agree with you re the widow "claim". It was common back then I think. Also, on the 1911 census she describes herself as " housekeeper", maybe I'm just too cynical . I can't help thinking why would a single man i.e. John Grove who is at the same census address, employ a single pregnant woman as housekeeper, he describes himself as single and having being born in India. ( Can't trace him either!!!!!), again I'm being cynical.
There is no info on my dad's birth certificate.
Do you know whether it was common not to register a child's birth for just over a month. Dad was born 5th May 1911 but not registered until June 14th. On the birth cert May says she has no occupation even though she is still at the census address of 139 Elm Park Mansions.
Once again, many thanks for your help.
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Re: May E Ballard
« Reply #20 on: Monday 29 January 18 09:30 GMT (UK) »
The primary registration window was officially 42 days so I think it was just about within that.

I don’t think you are being cynical - just sensibly reading between the lines.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: May E Ballard
« Reply #21 on: Monday 29 January 18 09:32 GMT (UK) »
Maybe she waited until she was able to register the birth herself, remember that women were kept in bed a lot longer after childbirth then.
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Re: May E Ballard
« Reply #22 on: Monday 29 January 18 09:41 GMT (UK) »
No voters were registered at 139 Elm Park Mansions 1911-1914.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: May E Ballard
« Reply #23 on: Monday 29 January 18 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Well I can't say I'm not surprised John Grove didn't register on the voter list, and May couldn't vote cos she was a woman.
I think they were both under the radar and stayed that way. It's a real shame between us we can't crack this mystery. Personally, I'm very sad but I'm now going to delete the Ballards from my tree and try to check out the Norwich connnection, so many thanks for this AVM ( and all of you also).
AND it's pouring with rain!
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Re: May E Ballard
« Reply #24 on: Monday 29 January 18 09:55 GMT (UK) »
Don’t give up on us yet - we’ve barely started!

Elm Park Mansions was built just after the turn of the century so was pretty new in 1911.  It’s in Camera Place, Chelsea. 

There is a John William Grove at 45 Camera Square, Chelsea, 1894-1900.  He may be worth looking for in 1901. 
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: May E Ballard
« Reply #25 on: Monday 29 January 18 10:02 GMT (UK) »
To you all,
You are so quick and professional and so very helpful. I'm pretty close to tears at the moment.
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Re: May E Ballard
« Reply #26 on: Monday 29 January 18 10:21 GMT (UK) »
I wouldn't give up on the fact that May Burdet (with one t in the census) says she was born in Bournemouth. It's rather a strange place to pick if she wasn't born there, and quite specific. It would have been much easier to have just said that she was born in London.
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