May E Ballard

[avm228]

Don’t give up on us yet - we’ve barely started!

Elm Park Mansions was built just after the turn of the century so was pretty new in 1911.  It’s in Camera Place, Chelsea. 

There is a John William Grove at 45 Camera Square, Chelsea, 1894-1900.  He may be worth looking for in 1901.

Just following up on this - unfortunately John William Grove was not at 45 Camera Square in 1901, when it was split into two households headed by Edward Wyatt and Charles Odell respectively.

RG13/71/80/10

[avm228]

I wouldn't give up on the fact that May Burdet (with one t in the census) says she was born in Bournemouth. It's rather a strange place to pick if she wasn't born there, and quite specific. It would have been much easier to have just said that she was born in London.

I agree about the birthplace, and would be inclined to think that if she is said to be a widow and to have had a child before, then (at 30) it’s more likely than not that she had been married (whether that resulted in bereavement or estrangement).

The Burdett spelling (when she was the informant of the birth) may be more reliable than the Burdet spelling (entered by John Grove on the household return).

[groom]

I'm not sure about the widow. If that was correct her maiden name should be on the birth certificate as well as the name Burdett i.e. Burdett formery xxxxxxx.

[avm228]

I'm not sure about the widow. If that was correct her maiden name should be on the birth certificate as well as the name Burdett i.e. Burdett formery xxxxxxx.

Agreed - I’m not sure about any of it to be honest!  But there’s no obvious May Burdet(t) born in Bournemouth - and any anomalies in the birth registration may reflect coyness about her unusual domestic set-up.

To rule out a couple of things:

George Burdett and May Hutt are on the same page of marriages (1909 Kensington) but did not marry each other.

She is not the May Helen Greene who married Horace Frank Burdett (1910 Norwich) - this couple emigrated together to Canada.

[groom]

George Burdett and May Hutt are on the same page of marriages (1909 Kensington) but did not marry each other.

Agreed, I was about to post that - he married Hilda Selleck.

[gilesc]

Tell me I'm clutching at straws.
I have found a stray Eleanor Burdett in the 1911 census.

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=UBz2071&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&gss=angs-g&new=1&rank=1&msT=1&gsfn=Louis&gsfn_x=NIC&gsln=Newmark&gsln_x=NP&msypn__ftp=28%20mapesbury%20road%20%20London%20NW&msydy=1911&_83004003-n_xcl=f&cpxt=1&cp=4&catbucket=r&MSAV=1&uidh=2q9&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=39806701&dbid=2352&indiv=1&ml_rpos=1

Why has Louis Newmark got an Eleanor Burdett as his daughter when his other children are all Newmarks? Her birth in 1900 does fit, but still??? as does the number of children he acknowledges ( I think). Could this child be the one May Burdett stats is still living in the 1911 census?
OOOOO my head hurts
Carolyn
Carolyn

[avm228]

Eleanor Burdett is not in Louis Newmark’s household.

She is next door. Parents not home.  Likely a well-off family though as Eleanor is rattling round the 11-room house with a governess and other domestic staff.

[avm228]

Born Eleanor Green Burdett in Kensington, 1899.

1901 aged 1 in Notting Hill with parents Joseph (a solicitor) and Lilian: RG13/31/157/35.

[gilesc]

Tee hee, certainly not my family then. Thanks for pointing this out to me.
Carolyn