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Re: Garwelfoot, Scotland.
« Reply #9 on: Monday 29 January 18 05:25 GMT (UK) »
I had second thoughts on whether Garrelfoot = Garwellfoot, but doing a bit of googling I notice a couple of different references to a "William Douglas" of both "Garrelfoot" and "Garwellfoot" so it seems to be the same place.

I think the 1750 map I linked to might be a bit inaccurate. I can't align it with more recent maps at all to try to find where Garrel/Garwell-foot was. It doesn't seem to exist after 1750ish.  :-\

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Re: Garwelfoot, Scotland.
« Reply #10 on: Monday 29 January 18 05:43 GMT (UK) »
You are fantastic Ruskie!  Thank-you so much. I've just had a quick look at the maps but will spend more time as soon as I have more time!
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Re: Garwelfoot, Scotland.
« Reply #11 on: Monday 29 January 18 05:57 GMT (UK) »
I thought there might be a location clue as on the 1750 map I can see "Tearth Water" beside Garrelfoot. Googling Tearth water throws up all sorts of irrelevant results. I can't see it marked on any other maps.

A couple of places on the 1750 map still exist today. I think being flexible regarding the location might be the best approach as I think the mapmaker used a bit of artistic licence.

Something that may or may not be relevant is that on maps around the mid 1800s is a Garvald Burn which you can follow on maps NE from Fernyhaugh. Maybe Garvald sounds a bit like Garwell? Maybe a coincidence?

On the 1750 map it looks like Garrelfoot is just NW of Ingraston, but I suspect it might be further away than it appears.

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Re: Garwelfoot, Scotland.
« Reply #12 on: Monday 29 January 18 06:02 GMT (UK) »
The area around Garvald House?

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=55.7259&lon=-3.4354&layers=5&right=BingHyb

It seems to be in about the right place, in a bend of the river and aligns with this map:

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=55.7342&lon=-3.4461&layers=4&right=BingHyb

Added: obviously Garvald House is built later but I was wondering if the name was taken from an earlier settlement/farmstead?  :-\

Added: I have also found mention of Water of Tairth in relation to Garrelfoot, which is presumably the Tearth Water marked on the 1750 map.

I can't see any mention of Garvald ever being called Garwellfoot or Garrelfoot:
https://www.garvald.org.uk/history-of-garvald/
https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Place:Garvald%2C_East_Lothian%2C_Scotland

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Re: Garwelfoot, Scotland.
« Reply #13 on: Monday 29 January 18 06:41 GMT (UK) »
It may be the same place despite my doubts:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lfg/

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Re: Garwelfoot, Scotland.
« Reply #14 on: Monday 29 January 18 20:41 GMT (UK) »
hi dont know if this is any help if you go to  https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk and in the search box key in the various spellings ruskie mentioned eg garwelfoot, garrelfoot, garrel, and any others you may have under  garwelfoot a horse tax record comes up for 1785-1798 a colinal shutterwood and under garrelfoot the colnel shutterwood has a sevant tax with names on it also some other records you will need to click on them for names some may tie in with who you are looking for its a free site to use
p.s it mentions linton on top heading of page
         
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Re: Garwelfoot, Scotland.
« Reply #15 on: Monday 29 January 18 21:54 GMT (UK) »
How about the Garrell Burn/Glen in Kilsyth?

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Re: Garwelfoot, Scotland.
« Reply #16 on: Monday 29 January 18 22:21 GMT (UK) »
It may be the same place despite my doubts:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lfg/

Ruskie, I think the Garrelfoot you found on the old maps is the correct place (per OP info) and that the link above, whilst a different Garrel, supports the name change from Garrelfoot to Garvald.  That's my vote anyway ::)
Christine.
AUSTRALIA: Farrelly, Boland, Harte
IRELAND:  Boland (Tipp), Dempsey (Cavan), Farrelly (Meath), Guerin & Harte (Clare), McGivern & McKenna (Monaghan), Traynor
SCOTLAND:  Dempsey (Edin), Welsh (Forfar,Arbroath,Kirriemuir,Kincardine), Milne (Forfar), Barron, Bisset (Montrose)

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Re: Garwelfoot, Scotland.
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 01 February 18 08:02 GMT (UK) »
Thank-you to everyone who found some very interesting information and old maps.
Dates for the three births that state Garwelfoot as the birthplace are 1794,  1796 and 1802. That confirms that the place was still there at that time.
Sandie.