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John HANDFORD, born 1835, Loughborough
« on: Monday 29 January 18 16:07 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

John HANDFORD was born c1835, in Loughborough, the son of Joseph HANDFORD, a Framework Knitter, and his wife Ann.  He had several brothers/sisters, Emma, Joseph, Thomas, Charles and Eliza.

I am trying to ascertain whether or not he married......his wife possibly Sarah (Ann?) BARKER. a widow with two children Charles and George (this is pure supposition!!).  If so, the marriage could have taken place about 1872/1873 and would validate information in the 1881 England Census and following enumerations.

Can anyone help please.

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Re: John HANDFORD, born 1835, Loughborough
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 January 18 16:11 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried FreeBMD for other possibilities?  I can't see any match for your suggestion.

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Re: John HANDFORD, born 1835, Loughborough
« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 January 18 16:20 GMT (UK) »
Birth for youngest daughter in 1881 gives mmn Barker so Sarah apparently not widowed unless she married a Barker  :-\

HANDFORD, ELIZABETH  ANN     mmn BARKER     
1877  June Quarter in LOUGHBOROUGH  Volume 07A  Page 140
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Re: John HANDFORD, born 1835, Loughborough
« Reply #3 on: Monday 29 January 18 16:28 GMT (UK) »
RG10 /3255 F4 p1

She is with John Handford calling herself Sarah Thompson - also children Charles Barker 10 & Edward Barker 6
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Re: John HANDFORD, born 1835, Loughborough
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 January 18 16:46 GMT (UK) »
Thank You rosie99,

The 1870 Census is interesting........she is lodging with John HANFORD as a married woman with two children Charles and Edward.   I assume Edward refers to George in the 1881 Census.

On the balance of probabilities Sarah THOMPSON married John HANDFORD between 1871 and 1881, or changed her name to HANDFORD and had three more children, whereas her maiden name was "BARKER".   All very Victorian melodrama, but extremely inviting an exercise to resolve the complications. 

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Re: John HANDFORD, born 1835, Loughborough
« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 January 18 16:55 GMT (UK) »
Pure speculation but this could be Edward's birth reg
BARKER, EDWARD       No mothers maiden name on index     
1864  Dec Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 172

There are a couple of birth reg's in Loughborough RD that would fit Charles also with no mmn.

I doubt that she ever married  ::)
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Re: John HANDFORD, born 1835, Loughborough
« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 January 18 19:17 GMT (UK) »
 ;) Hi all, getting confused with the names of the Barker children eg in 1901 census:-

John Handford 64
Sarah 64
Richard Barker 34 Son in Law/Single
Emily Handford 19
Edith Barker 5 Grandaughter
RG13/2978/48/4

Edith looks to be born 1896 Loughborough mmn Wesley

Marriage possible Joseph Barker to Harriet Wesley Dec qtr 1895 Loughborough 7a 276
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Re: John HANDFORD, born 1835, Loughborough
« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 January 18 20:27 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your help.

I think a picture is beginning to emerge though I need to cross and dot T's and I's carefully.   The relationships appear extremely complex.   However, eventually creating sufficient cohesion is always exciting. 8)

For the moment,

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Re: John HANDFORD, born 1835, Loughborough
« Reply #8 on: Monday 29 January 18 22:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, the 1911 is worth a view for a 78 year old John Handford in Loughborough with Barker relations?
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