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Robert Ashburner Master Mariner
« on: Wednesday 31 January 18 11:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,
My grandfather was John Ashburner Kendal born in Dalton in Furness 29/4/1858. His father was Edward Ashburner born 1818 in Cartmel Lancashire. I visited St Michaels Churchyard in Rampside and photographed the headstone of Master Mariner Robert Ashburner (1852-1904).I have an ancestry 4th cousin match to a member of the Douglas family who is a descendant of this same Robert Ashburner through the Ashburner and Wedge families. What I would like to know is how to find the connection  between my line and the Robert Ashburner line ?. I would greatly appreciate any assistance or advice, Thank you. Regards Gary Murphy

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Re: Robert Ashburner Master Mariner
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 12:28 GMT (UK) »
There is a baptism for a Robert Ashburner on 2 January 1853, birth year 1852.  Parents are Robert and Jane and the baptism was at Ulverston, Lancs

Could this be your Robert?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Robert Ashburner Master Mariner
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 12:38 GMT (UK) »
There is an 1871 census showing Robert (1817) and Jane (1819) with children Thomas (1849) and Robert (1853).

Robert Snr is a retired sailmaker and Robert Jnr is an apprentice sailmaker.

Registration District is Ulverston
Piece No. 4244
Folio 52
Page 40

This looks like Robert Jnr's birth registration

ASHBURNER, ROBERT       BELL     
GRO Reference: 1852  D Quarter in ULVERSTONE UNION  Volume 08E  Page 532

This looks like the parents marriage

Marriages Dec 1844   
ASHBURNER    Robert        Ulverstone    25   257   
BELL    Jane        Ulverstone    25   257


Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Robert Ashburner Master Mariner
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 12:43 GMT (UK) »
Couple of other births for this couple

ASHBURNER, JOHN  BELL     BELL
GRO Reference: 1850  D Quarter in ULVERSTONE UNION  Volume 25  Page 227
   
ASHBURNER, THOMAS       BELL 
GRO Reference: 1848  S Quarter in ULVERSTONE UNION  Volume 25  Page 213

Looks as though John died

ASHBURNER, JOHN  BELL     0     
GRO Reference: 1851  M Quarter in ULVERSTONE UNION  Volume 25  Page 165
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Robert Ashburner Master Mariner
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 15:29 GMT (UK) »
Just clarifying your grandfather John - his birth record from the GRO

KENDALL, JOHN  ASHBURNER     -     
GRO Reference: 1858  J Quarter in ULVERSTONE UNION  Volume 08E  Page 609

What I take to be his parents marriage but Hannah's surname mistranscribed

Marriages Jun 1858   
Ashburner    Edward        Ulverstone    8e   746   
Rendal    Hannah        Ulverstone    8e   746

So you are trying to find out if Robert Ashburner (1852) is related to Edward and his son John.  That means going backwards in order to try and link the above.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Robert Ashburner Master Mariner
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 February 18 01:33 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much for taking the time to look up these particulars, I think they are spot on. I will work backwards as you suggest - Could I please ask another question of you ? - In your experience how accurate do you think the prediction is for a fourth Cousin relationship ?, I am wondering If there could be an alternate relationship other than a fourth Cousin one. Thank you Regards

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Re: Robert Ashburner Master Mariner
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 February 18 07:19 GMT (UK) »
Oh my, I always get crossed-eyed working out relationships.  I suggest that you Google 'ancestor relationship chart'  and look at images of these charts. 

Pick the one that you find easiest to follow and use that to work out the relationship.  I'll give you a starter - try looking at this website:-

http://www.flora-and-sam.com/pages/RelationshipChart.htm

If you need any help let us know and we will try our best to find what you are looking for.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire