Author Topic: "Women only "? 12 Dynham road 1939  (Read 1302 times)

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Re: "Women only "? 12 dynam road 1939
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 01 February 18 09:11 GMT (UK) »
My mother in law had recently come over from Ireland as a nurse in 1939 and appears in London in a household of all females. There are 4 nurses/matrons and all the rest have varying jobs,from unpaid domestic duties (a 40 year old single lady with a P in the first column?),to private means and secretary of a company.
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Re: "Women only "? 12 dynam road 1939
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 01 February 18 10:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your input
I had considered that some of the women were working in another place and lodging there.

But the 2 single unpaid ladies is a bit strange
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That Margaret  Booth  b1872 lived there from at least 1936-1945
Kate Clinick b1872 also was still there in 1945
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Re: "Women only "? 12 Dynham road 1939
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 01 February 18 11:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your input
I had considered that some of the women were working in another place and lodging there.

But the 2 single unpaid ladies is a bit strange
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From other thread information is
That Margaret  Booth  b1872 lived there from at least 1936-1945
Kate Clinick b1872 also was still there in 1945

Not really it simply means they do not work for a living but support themselves through other means. The could have been left a small inheritance or an annuity etc.

I suggest you are trying to read too much into the record.
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Re: "Women only "? 12 Dynham road 1939
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 01 February 18 11:40 GMT (UK) »
Just a bit of random detail: when the freelance journalist Amelia/Natalie/Natalia Abraham returned to the United States in October 1939 she travelled in First Class on the SS St John. She was born in St Louis on Christmas Day 1907 and lived with relatives in France from 1913 to 1926 (per her passport application). In 1939 she was bound for San Diego but I can't find any trace of her after that.
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Re: "Women only "? 12 Dynham road 1939
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 01 February 18 11:45 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your input
I had considered that some of the women were working in another place and lodging there.

But the 2 single unpaid ladies is a bit strange
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From other thread information is
That Margaret  Booth  b1872 lived there from at least 1936-1945
Kate Clinick b1872 also was still there in 1945

Not really it simply means they do not work for a living but support themselves through other means. The could have been left a small inheritance or an annuity etc.

I suggest you are trying to read too much into the record.
Cheers
Guy

The house continues to show females only, up to and after grandmotherís death. Some of the women are living there for several years and I would say this indicates that it is rental accommodation.
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Re: "Women only "? 12 Dynham road 1939
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 01 February 18 11:47 GMT (UK) »
We had two unmarried sister who lived in the same house as their mother and looked after her. They also did a lot for the local church and were listed the same on the 1939 register.
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Re: "Women only "? 12 Dynham road 1939
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 01 February 18 12:58 GMT (UK) »
I agree with you all ...not a mystery after all .

Likely that they were all boarders and a private landlord not living there i suppose
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Re: "Women only "? 12 Dynham road 1939
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 03 February 18 22:56 GMT (UK) »
This certainly sounds like a ladies-only boarding house.
Servants are divided by class as much as anyone else in 1930s

Housemaid  - probably uniformed in London, general duties poking fires, making beds, serving at table, blah.  May well work alongside other staff (cook etc) in a grander house.  Scrubbing floors is probably beneath her.

daily domestic - a "daily" pops in perhaps only for an hour or three's cleaning, and most likely has several customers

domestic worker - so vague, who knows, but perhaps the same thing, cleaning but for one employer

Housekeeper - top of ranking, generally trusted with keys accounts etc., most likely in charge of some other staff.  It is however possible this lady is the landlord's agent in this boarding house.

Think like a mini version of the grand country house hierarchy, but downsized for e.g. the lawyer-with-a-townhouse market, with maybe one live-in maid, a cook and a cleaner who come daily.

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Re: "Women only "? 12 Dynham road 1939
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 04 February 18 00:04 GMT (UK) »
I would post a pic of the house I saw on Google search for inknew how to transfer pics and attach them

My g grandmother was down as a retired Housekeeper ..I believe she may have managed the   household of her husband's uncle  in the 1920s

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