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Stuck locating Byrne parents of my great grandfather
« on: Friday 02 February 18 16:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi - new arrival here and seriously challenged finding info on my Great Great Grandfather - any ideas/advice greatly appreciated on how to dig deeper.

So here is what I have on this specific request:

- Arthur and Elizabeth Byrne in 1901 Census residing in House 1, Ballinglen, Co. Wicklow are my great grandfather and mother.
- Arthur died in 1907 (from a probate record recording his death in Ballinglen and with him leaving funds for Patrick J. Byrne (Builder) his eldest son)
- They had 6 children, 2 of whom were living in Ballinglen House 1 in 1901, Denis (later emigrated to NZ) and Arthur
- Their eldest son Patrick who was working in Newbridge in 1901 as a carpenter aged 20 and is recorded at that location (boarding in a house whose owner's daughter he later married!)
- His daughters Margaret, Elizabeth and Anne I am trying to track down - not much progress to date (Anne apparently was re-named Sister Thaddeus and emigrated to Texas).

So on the weak assumption that perhaps Arthur's parents were also from the area I found a Charles Byrne and wife Anne (nee Murphy? - poorly written record) in parish baptismal records with their son Arthur - the only Arthur baptized in records for the general area in 1848, the birth date of Arthur my grandfather.

So to my request for help in trying to validate that Charles might be the father of Arthur and if not, any ideas on tracing Charles and Anne Byrne, as to date I have had no lucky x-referencingnames/locations in the National Archives etc. but could very easily be missing something!!

Thanks in advance, C.

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Re: Stuck locating Byrne parents of my great grandfather
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 February 18 16:41 GMT (UK) »
It is always better to include links to things in posts....

Do you have links to them on census??
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Re: Stuck locating Byrne parents of my great grandfather
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 February 18 16:56 GMT (UK) »
So...
She is 40 in 1901!!

Denis is 16.

So now there is an approximate year for Marriage as her age is known!
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Re: Stuck locating Byrne parents of my great grandfather
« Reply #5 on: Friday 02 February 18 16:56 GMT (UK) »
To be clear, I am looking into the father/mother of Arthur Byrne - I provided all the info I have on Arthur and Elizabeth which of course is then straightforward to locate in the 1901 census.

I may have Arthur's baptism record (by no means at all verified) in Kilvaney Parish as the only 1848 Arthur born in that area in 1848 - parents on that record appear to be a Charles Byrne and an Anne nee Murphy possibly) - I will find and post the link to that too once I get a mo!

Cheers, C.

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Re: Stuck locating Byrne parents of my great grandfather
« Reply #6 on: Friday 02 February 18 17:01 GMT (UK) »
To be clear, I am looking into the father/mother of Arthur Byrne - I provided all the info I have on Arthur and Elizabeth which of course is then straightforward to locate in the 1901 census.

So he is 53!!

Birth won't be on Civil Reg!

Yes you are looking for his father.....so now know approximately when he married to look at Marriage Cert!!
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Re: Stuck locating Byrne parents of my great grandfather
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 February 18 17:03 GMT (UK) »
Yes indeed re marriage cert and of course I dug into locating that but to date no luck - found one very similar Arthur and Elizabeth but married in 1871 and too recent (based on known age of their kids)

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Re: Stuck locating Byrne parents of my great grandfather
« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 February 18 17:04 GMT (UK) »
 Marriage results for Arthur Byrne from 1880 to 1885

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