Coal Charter Master - Donnington Wood

[Coltrane]

An ancestor is described in the 1861 census as being a Coal Charter Master.

Can anyone enlighten me as to what that would have entailed?

I haven't yet visited the area, but is his residence in Donnington Wood significant, in terms of his trade?

Thank you.

Alan.

[DebbieG]

Hi - I also have an ancestor who was a charter master at Donnington wood

Miners in the area worked in gangs - I think about 6 men some with specific jobs - the charter master organised the gang and negotiated the rate of pay for the amount of coal they produced with the mine manager/owner
- so yes his residence is significant as it would be connected to the pit

What was your ancestors name?  mine were Watkiss and Haywood

Debbie

[Coltrane]

Hi Debbie, Many thanks for the description, very helpful.

My ancestor is Thomas MANWARING, born Wrockwardine abt  1813.
Living in 1861 at 179 Donnington Wood (does this still exist?)
He had by then married Emma LEIGHTON, also born Wrockwardine abt 1809.

Regards,

Alan.

[alnat]

I've got a 1841 transcription of the Lilleshall Census which includes Donnington Wood.

Can I look anything up for either of you?

[Coltrane]

Hi Helen, many thanks for the offer.
I know little about my MANWARING & LEIGHTON roots in Shropshire.

Manwaring could be spelt Mainwaring, as apparently this was
commonly written by enumerators if the person wasn't sure.

Thomas Ma(i)nwaring born abt 1813 Wrockwardine, his wife
Emma Leighton born abt 1809 also Wrockwardine.
Marriage not until 1842, so any folks with these names around in 1841 showing on
your records would be helpful.

Regards,
Alan.

[alnat]

Lilleshall 1841, all Mainwarings I found

Samuel Mainwaring40 Lime Miner
Elizabeth Mainwaring 40
Thomas Mainwaring 60 Lime Miner
The address is Limekiln Lane

Francis Dawes 30
Sarah Dawes 40
Jane Mainwaring 15
James Mainwaring 10
Preston Lane

No Leitons (any spelling) at all

[Coltrane]

Helen, Many thanks for the look up.
I'll log the info in case it fits later research.

Regards,
Alan.

[f261064]

Helen - I see you are interested in PODMORE.  Does the following family tie in?

Descendants of Samuel Padmore
            
1  Samuel Padmore   b: Abt. 1762   
  +Margaret Light   b: Abt. 1758   
    2  Jane Podmore   b: 1797 in Dawley Magna, Shropshire, England.                 +Joseph Bladen   b: 1791 in Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England.   
             3  Mary Ann Bladen   b: 1828 in Wellington, Shropshire, England.      +Joseph Harley   b: 1828 in Kidderminister, Worcestershire, England.   
             3  John Bladen   b: 1835 in Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England.   
                 +Ann Unk.   b: 1836 in Trench, Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England   
                 4  Joseph Bladen   b: 1857 in Hortons Wood, Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England.   
                 4  Henry Bladen   b: 1861 in Hortons Wood, Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England.   
                 4  Joseph Bladen   b: 1863 in Hortons Wood, Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England.   
                 4 Jane Bladen   b: 1864 in Hortons Wood, Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England.   
                 4  John Bladen   b: 1867 in Hortons Wood, Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England.   
                   +Fanny Unk   b: 1868 in Kettley, Shropshire, England.   
                       5  Mabel Bladen   b: 1893 in Hortons Wood, Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England.   
                       5  Mary Ann Bladen   b: 1894 in Hortons Wood, Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England.   
                       5  John Bladen   b: 1896 in Hortons Wood, Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England.   
                       5  Sarah J Bladen   b: 1899 in Hortons Wood, Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England.   
                      5  William H Bladen   b: 1900 in Steeraway, Shropshire, England.   
               4  Sarah Bladen   b: 1869   
                  4  Thomas Bladen   b: 1870 in Hortons Wood, Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England.   
                4  Martha Bladen   b: 1873 in Hortons Wood, Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England.   
    2  Richard Padmore b: 1798 in Eyton Upon The Weald Moors, Shropshire, England.   
           +Mary Ann Unk b: 1802   

Fiona.

[David Poole]

Hello Coltrane,

Both my gradfather Richard Poole and Great Grandfather Richard Poole were Charter Masters in Shropshire .

According  to  articles  I  have read   of  historical societies in  the BlackCountry ;
" The actual mining of the coal and ironstone was undertaken by Charter  Masters , specially qualified men with training and experienced  , often being the sons of charter masters . These were contracted with the landowners mining agents to supply the  labour , horses , tools , candles , and explosives and also light beer to be sent down in small kegs at midday . They were not responsible for the winding plants and the sinking of the shafts . They were paid tonnage rates , the rates being obtained by weighing machines on the railway and by gauging of the canal boats . "

I hope this has been of some help .

As  for me I have found a William Pooe Charter master at Dawley Bank 1851 , a Horace David Poole  Charter Master and General Manager of Baggeridge colliery 1926 to 1937 , son of my namesake David  Philip Poole , who  in 1901 was manager of an iron foundry living near Amblecote , Staffs .
Now I have to find their links to my family .

Regards ,
David .P. Poole .