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Nocha Hajma Ofaman SIMON
« on: Sunday 04 February 18 00:30 GMT (UK) »
Looking for birth information, country of origin re Nocha Hajma Ofaman SIMON married Bombay, India 15 March 1920.  Nocha gave her age as 29 at marriage, born circa 1890, Father: Hasman SIMON.
Husband George John CRISP, aged 43 years born 1877, Father: Edward Crisp.
Was Bride, Hungarian, Russian, Middle-eastern.
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Re: Nocha Hajma Ofaman SIMON
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 February 18 16:10 GMT (UK) »
The bride's name and that of her father suggest very strongly that she was of Jewish origin. Much to my surprise, there was a large Jewish community in Bombay.

Nocha is most likely a derivative of Nechama.

Hajma is the feminine form of the Hebrew name Hai'im. The initial 'h' is a softening of the original Hebrew letter khet which is pronounced like 'ch' in loch.

Her father's given name, Hasman, is a Yiddish derivative of Khaskel.

Simon is, of course, a Hebrew name.

I've seen this record on ancestry. Do you have the original, by any chance? I wonder if some parts have been mistranscribed.

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Re: Nocha Hajma Ofaman SIMON
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 February 18 22:11 GMT (UK) »
The images for the ecclesiastical returns from the presidency of Bombay are on FindMyPast. These are contemporary transcripts, not the original registers.

The marriage was at Christ Church, Byculla, in the Archdeaconry of Bombay.

The brideís name as written looks like Nellie Nujma Naaman Simon, but there is some overwriting, and itís not fully clear. The father is clearly Naaman Simon. In any event, the bride signed the register as N. N. N. Simon, so the Hajma Ofaman names are probably mistranscriptions by FamilySearch or Ancestry (or whoever originally created that transcript).

You really need to view the image and decide for yourself.

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Re: Nocha Hajma Ofaman SIMON
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 February 18 02:54 GMT (UK) »
Oh well, so much for my theories.

Could this be a competitor for the worst Ancestry transcription?

However, Na'aman is a Hebrew name, so I might not have been completely off track.

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Re: Nocha Hajma Ofaman SIMON
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi JustinL,  <Many thanks for your very helpful comments.
Much appreciated.
Regards
clancam37
 
The bride's name and that of her father suggest very strongly that she was of Jewish origin. Much to my surprise, there was a large Jewish community in Bombay.

Nocha is most likely a derivative of Nechama.

Hajma is the feminine form of the Hebrew name Hai'im. The initial 'h' is a softening of the original Hebrew letter khet which is pronounced like 'ch' in loch.

Her father's given name, Hasman, is a Yiddish derivative of Khaskel.

Simon is, of course, a Hebrew name.

I've seen this record on ancestry. Do you have the original, by any chance? I wonder if some parts have been mistranscribed.

Justin

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Re: Nocha Hajma Ofaman SIMON
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 21:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bookbox,
Thank you for your reply and information.  Very helpful.  Until her death in 1959 she was known as Nellie.
Kind regards
clancam37
The images for the ecclesiastical returns from the presidency of Bombay are on FindMyPast. These are contemporary transcripts, not the original registers.

The marriage was at Christ Church, Byculla, in the Archdeaconry of Bombay.

The brideís name as written looks like Nellie Nujma Naaman Simon, but there is some overwriting, and itís not fully clear. The father is clearly Naaman Simon. In any event, the bride signed the register as N. N. N. Simon, so the Hajma Ofaman names are probably mistranscriptions by FamilySearch or Ancestry (or whoever originally created that transcript).

You really need to view the image and decide for yourself.