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Where was Atinlia/Attinlia in Moray?
« on: Sunday 04 February 18 15:37 GMT (UK) »
The register for Duthil & Rothiemurchus states at baptisms 1800 & 1807 that the father was of Atinlia/Attinlia. I can find no reference to this place.  Was it just a farm maybe?  Can anyone help please?

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Re: Where was Atinlia/Attinlia in Moray?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 February 18 16:01 GMT (UK) »
Check that the word doesn't actually start with Alt... That indicates a burn and is a common beginning of place-names.

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Re: Where was Atinlia/Attinlia in Moray?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 February 18 16:17 GMT (UK) »
Very definitely At, once with a single t & once with 2. Very clear hand writing.  I think it has to be a property name

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Re: Where was Atinlia/Attinlia in Moray?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 February 18 16:19 GMT (UK) »
Could you post a snip with the word [plus a few surrounding so that we can compare] please?
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Where was Atinlia/Attinlia in Moray?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 February 18 16:25 GMT (UK) »
Here's Duthil in 1890s
1:10560
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=13&lat=57.3023&lon=-3.7738&layers=1&b=1
not mapped at 1:2500 at that time

ADDED: I can see Achtateang  ??? not sure how it would be pronounced. At[t]inlia may have been a parish clerk's phonetic interpretation of the placename.
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Where was Atinlia/Attinlia in Moray?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 February 18 18:38 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps Aitenlica which was a farm east of there. 

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Re: Where was Atinlia/Attinlia in Moray?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 February 18 18:55 GMT (UK) »
 Lieut. Charles Grant, 55 th regiment, 2 copiei   J)r Gregory Grant  Enngn john Grant, of Atinlia

From :- http://digital.nls.uk/early-gaelic-book-collections/archive/97339283?mode=transcription

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Re: Where was Atinlia/Attinlia in Moray?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 February 18 19:49 GMT (UK) »
The register for Duthil & Rothiemurchus states at baptisms 1800 & 1807 that the father was of Atinlia/Attinlia. I can find no reference to this place.  Was it just a farm maybe?
It could have been a croft or just a single house. Can you post a copy of it here please?

It isn't listed in the chapter on Duthil in Donald Matheson's 'Place Names of Elginshire', and unless I have missed the reference it isn't mentioned in either the Statistical Account or Lachlan Shaw's 'History of the Province of Moray'.
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Re: Where was Atinlia/Attinlia in Moray?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 February 18 19:55 GMT (UK) »
There's a Lagganlia, in Alvie parish, neighbour of Rothiemurchus.

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Aittenlia, found it, it's in the valley of the Dulnain, just by the river & between Caggan, a bothy named Eile & Dalnahiatnich.
Caggan was a bothy & Dalnahaitnach a derelict croft. Aittenlia will just be a pile of stones now. Used to know the upper part of that glen well. Divided between several Speyside estates with roads over the hills, north to the Dulnain. Could be Kinrara  estate so originally part of the Duke of Gordon's vast territories which were split up & sold off. A very wild place, nobody lives up there, the last wolf in Scotlad was killed therraboots!
PS, there were several "Last Wolves!"