Author Topic: Berkshire Will of 1560  (Read 1098 times)

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Re: Berkshire Will of 1560
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 12:48 GMT (UK) »
Wonderful. Many thanks. I am learning something. How about this. The second highlighted word is in actual fact the next line. Toby.

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Re: Berkshire Will of 1560
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 12:54 GMT (UK) »
sycke (= sick)

It's a 'long s' at the beginning.

The letter that looks like r is actually c.

I'll try to find you an alphabet to work from.

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Re: Berkshire Will of 1560
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 13:03 GMT (UK) »
This one might be close enough, but if I can find a better one I'll post it ...

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/palaeography/doc7_popup/alphabet.htm

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Re: Berkshire Will of 1560
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 16:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks. 'Sick' makes sense but the words of the first phrase are quite possibly not common words and so are more difficult. The alphabet is helpful but nowhere do I see anything remotely like  Robert Hornblowe of Hurst, Berkshire which was the title of the will. More homework required. T

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Re: Berkshire Will of 1560
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 16:46 GMT (UK) »
The line before (with the section in the red boxes) is:

...Horneblowe of the p(ar)ishe of hurst...

hurst is the word immediately to the left of the second red box.

In relation to the word p(ar)ishe, the descender of the p is crossed over itself.

This indicates letters have been omitted, usually -er or (as in this case) -ar.

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Re: Berkshire Will of 1560
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 17:31 GMT (UK) »
To add a note to HDís explanation above ...

In handwriting of this period, the letter h has a long looped descender, making it look more like a g or y. This is what you see at the beginning of hurst. Relatively little of the letter is above the line, unless itís joined to a preceding long s, as in p(ar)ishe.

This sort of hand is not easy reading if you're new to it, but recognising the letters does come with practice, and if you need more help Iím sure people will oblige.

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Re: Berkshire Will of 1560
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Bookbox & horselydown86. Getting like a tutorial and I am starting to look at things differently. The lack of capital letters in so many cases makes things more difficult.
Line 6 in this will contains many repeated letters but even then the most I have got out has been
 "afforesaid" & "and". Pretty pathetic really so would be pleased for more help.
Thanks, Toby.

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Re: Berkshire Will of 1560
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 21:56 GMT (UK) »
... w(i)thin the Church yerde of hurst aforsaid It(e)m I geve and ...

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Re: Berkshire Will of 1560
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 08 February 18 06:01 GMT (UK) »
Just to say, you are allowed to post SECTIONS of a document on here - don't think you are restricted to  just the odd line. Just not supposed to post the  whole document, (though that has been done sometimes! although the moderators might remove it as it breaches copyright.)
If you want to post a 'chunk' to get into the swing of it, there will be people who can transcribe this. As Bookbox says, once you get to recognise the letters, this handwriting you have here is not too difficult.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs