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Re: Funeral and Burial records? do they exist?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 05 February 18 23:01 GMT (UK) »
You might want to explore this site?
https://explore.library.leeds.ac.uk/special-collections-explore/Leeds%20General%20Cemetery%20Burial%20Registers%20Index

I found the 1926 and 1932 Frances ;D

Frances Relton widow d 13/04/1926 age 75
Parents: James & Mary McMalley
James was an Army Instructor

Frances Relton spinster d of heart failure 11/11/1932 age 51
Mother: Frances Relton

And James:

James  Relton Brushmaker d 24/03/1891 age 44

And William Beevers:

William Beevers Cloth Finisher d 13/01/1904 age 41 of Phthisis
Parents: William & Mary Beevers
William snr was also a Cloth Finisher
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Funeral and Burial records? do they exist?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 11:43 GMT (UK) »
well I wouldn't mind some help with the following:

Frances Gertrude Relton (1881-1932)

Frances A Relton (nee McNally) (1851-1926)

James Relton (1847-1891)

Polly Coleman (nee Roberts) (1878-1966)

William Fenton Beevers (1862-1904)

tia


I found all the above except Polly Coleman in a quick search in the transcripts on the Yorkshire Indexers website. (Polly might also be found with a bit more digging, though it's possibly after their cut-off date.)

The Reltons you mention were in two separate graves, and both of these appear to have other family members buried there whom you haven't mentioned. As well as what KGarrad has provided, the transcripts typically give the deceased's address, and sometimes a birthplace - one of yours was far from Yorkshire....

The records at Yorkshire Indexers are available on payment of a small subscription, and if you have Leeds interests it's probably well worth considering. The home page is http://www.yorkshireindexers.info/forum/content.php?1-home&tabid=59
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Funeral and Burial records? do they exist?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 13:03 GMT (UK) »
thankyou guys

as you say, it seems 4 of them were buried in the Leeds General Cemetery in Woodhouse - a place where seemingly 93,569 interments took place. It was then landscaped in the late 60's but "no exhumations took place"  :o

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodhouse_Cemetery

so are we to assume we would be walking over nearly 100,000 coffins if we were to visit? not sure how they would all fit!!

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Re: Funeral and Burial records? do they exist?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 14:36 GMT (UK) »
It wasn't uncommon to find 4 coffins in a grave! ;D

My grandparents are both buried in the same grave as my grandmother's parents.

Common graves might hold many nore.
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Re: Funeral and Burial records? do they exist?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 14:47 GMT (UK) »
It wasn't uncommon to find 4 coffins in a grave! ;D

My grandparents are both buried in the same grave as my grandmother's parents.

Common graves might hold many nore.

on that subject, it seems one grave plot contained 169!

https://explore.library.leeds.ac.uk/special-collections-explore/Leeds%20General%20Cemetery%20Burial%20Registers%20Index

how is that even possible!?

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Re: Funeral and Burial records? do they exist?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 15:31 GMT (UK) »
Mass graves ;D

My local churchyard has 2 such graves:
1. the result of a shipwreck.
2. Victims of a Cholera outbreak.
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Re: Funeral and Burial records? do they exist?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 15:39 GMT (UK) »
They will all be in a common grave with the same plot number, possibly 12 ft deep

Or in the case of Kensal Green, a plot is reputed to be on quicksand and never fills up.

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Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
Chandler-Chelsea

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Re: Funeral and Burial records? do they exist?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 16:47 GMT (UK) »
They will all be in a common grave with the same plot number, possibly 12 ft deep

Or in the case of Kensal Green, a plot is reputed to be on quicksand and never fills up.

you can fit 169 coffins in one grave plot!? even at 12 foot depth?

Another ancestor (Cornelia Garforth) is buried here:

https://explore.library.leeds.ac.uk/special-collections-explore/Leeds%20General%20Cemetery%20Burial%20Registers%20Index?archiveLocationOfOriginals=%2210358%22

it seems In the plot (10358) some were buried 1850 and 1887, more in 1915, and more in 1935 so not the results of a shipwreck or common disease.

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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 17:42 GMT (UK) »
At Wandsworth cemetery, they have what is known as the mound.

Basically, the cemetery ran out of space and just dumped a lot of earth on top of the common graves underneath to gives themselves more room.

If you have access to google maps have a look here

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Kensal+Green+Cemetery,+Harrow+Rd,+London+NW10+5NU/@51.5288434,-0.2302583,292m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x4876103c62e355d9:0x81d0932cf9c04422!8m2!3d51.5299835!4d-0.2280666?hl=en

There is a large section without headstones, most probably an area for "common graves". If you gently zoom in you can see the outlines of the graves, but it is most probably "one plot" or section.

The lack of headstones in this one area is quite noticeable.
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Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
Chandler-Chelsea