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Re: john carr and family puzzle
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 11 February 18 09:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ryan don't get to hung up on the different name on Alexander's death cert his son was only a young boy when Janet died so may not have known anything about her and death certificates are the worst for mistakes as the person giving the information may not know it all or upset or in shock to give the correct answers

Also remember approximately one third of BMD's pre 1855 weren't recorded or have survived so I would go by the info given on the marriage cert as given by Alexander himself apart from the Ferguson name which we now believe to be Fraser

Have found Ann's first marriage to John Taylor in Kilspindie 1849

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Re: john carr and family puzzle
« Reply #46 on: Sunday 11 February 18 10:00 GMT (UK) »
thanks wendy its maybe time to forget about the mistake and

just havent found a birth or death for father john carr ,birth  1809? to death ? going by census

also cant find birth for alexander - i thought i had found a birth for him in 1842 to john and marry haddon but going by census john is born 1816 in montrose


is it time to move on from trying to find john ?


ryan

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Re: john carr and family puzzle
« Reply #47 on: Sunday 11 February 18 10:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ryan ,  If you check the birth for Alexander Carr born 3 February 1842 Montrose Angus
Father John Carr Mother Mary Haddon ..This Alexander I would say appears in the census returns in Craig Forfarshire occupation sea man ...I think this Alexander married a Elizabeth Pettigrew Glasgow 1866 maybe check this out ..

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Re: john carr and family puzzle
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 11 February 18 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Ryan you will maybe never find a death for John Carr if he died before 1855 that's the problem we all have I'm afraid ...I have had a look on deceased online and nothing pops up there  ???

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Re: john carr and family puzzle
« Reply #49 on: Sunday 11 February 18 10:16 GMT (UK) »
thanks maybe its going to be impossible

looking at son alexanders marriage in 1870 john father is deceased
but his daughter ann in 1875 he is not mentioned deceased

strange because 1851 census suggests janet is a widow


would be very interesting if we could get the birth of alexander


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Re: john carr and family puzzle
« Reply #50 on: Sunday 11 February 18 10:25 GMT (UK) »
thanks maybe its going to be impossible

looking at son alexanders marriage in 1870 john father is deceased
but his daughter ann in 1875 he is not mentioned deceased

strange because 1851 census suggests janet is a widow


would be very interesting if we could get the birth of alexander


ryan

A lot of certificates I have came across did not always have the death for parents recorded or some had the wrong parent recorded as deceased ..
I think you will need to forget about the mother name on the death certificate for Alexander all Other certificates lists his father as ploughman or labourer the other John Carr married to Margaret Haddon his occupation was shoemaker ...

So back to the orginal post Alexander Carr and Betsy Chalmers were the parents of John Carr  :)

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Re: john carr and family puzzle
« Reply #51 on: Sunday 11 February 18 10:30 GMT (UK) »
that is perfect we can accept we have made a great achievement on the john carr mystery but seems going back to grandfather john isnt easy as we have experienced

huge thanks to rosie and wendy


just before we finish the subject why wouldnt there be a birth for alexander ?

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Re: john carr and family puzzle
« Reply #52 on: Sunday 11 February 18 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Looking to Ann Carr death cert looks like the informant is John Carr brother

There is a death of a john Carr in the St Andrews area of Dundee 1908 age 68 could be him

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Re: john carr and family puzzle
« Reply #53 on: Sunday 11 February 18 10:45 GMT (UK) »
Again not all births were recorded before 1855 I have never been able to find births for some of  my Ancestors it's just one of these things ..And it gets much harder trying to trace family back also as you say you have made a great achievement ...Don't always rely on family trees without checking information yourself good luck

Rosie