Author Topic: The Schauer family's Migration to New Zealand  (Read 1568 times)

Offline Seany

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 50
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
The Schauer family's Migration to New Zealand
« on: Monday 05 February 18 23:42 GMT (UK) »
This family relates to my Prussian and Irish ancestors who raised their family in Victoria, Australia and for some reason all migrated out to New Zealand. It overlaps with some other threads Iíve been in. The Parents were Herman Julius Schauer and Annie Clark, who married in Victoria and had a big family.

1872. Herman Julius Schauer
1874. Carl Albert Schauer ďCharlieĒ
1876. Annie Catherine Schauer
1877. Frederick William Schauer
1879. Marie Elizabeth Schauer (My line)
1881. Auguste Fredericka Schauer
1885. Gustave Rudalph Schauer

From what I can tell. Their daughter Auguste died as a child and father Herman died in 1888.

His wife Annie remarried to a John Davey in 1890 and have a one child, although it has the father on the cert as Julius, when heíd been dead for years and Annie already remarried.

1894 Maria Elizabeth Schauer

Not sure what happened to John Davey. The next time I spot any of them, they are in New Zealand appearing on Papers pleasem working in hotels, getting elected, fighting in the First World War. Getting married, having kids, ect. I always wondered what became of Annieís youngest daughter to John, and how the Schauer family made it out to New Zealand. It was only chance that I found Annie Davey living with her daughter Marie Elizabeth Fox an Annie Catherine Webb in the same hotel. 1919.

So far Iíve found a man named Mr Schauer (single, laborour) leaving Melbourne for Wellington 23 Aug 1907 on the Wimmera. He was 36, which makes him born 1871. I think this is the Eldest, Herman Julius.

The Schauer family must have been out there earlier though, since Marie married in 1904 and Annie 1907. Annie and Marriage marriage certs appear under the name Schaner. Took me a long time to break through from Schaner to Schauer. Amazing luck I broke through with wildcards in the Vic BDM.

The earliest marriage is between Carl Schauer and his wife Ellen Goodwin in 1901.
Frederick seemed like the only one who stayed in Victoria.

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline Lucy2

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 13,407
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: The Schauer family's Migration to New Zealand
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 February 18 23:51 GMT (UK) »
This family relates to my Prussian and Irish ancestors who raised their family in Victoria, Australia and for some reason all migrated out to New Zealand. It overlaps with some other threads Iíve been in.



Can you supply links to these "other threads" please ?

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline Seany

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 50
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: The Schauer family's Migration to New Zealand
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 00:23 GMT (UK) »
Lucy2, You'r everywhere :)

Father's relatives:

The Fox family.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=541167.msg6421188#msg6421188
I'm attempting to merge my relative Alexander Edward Fox born 1877, Perth to the Alexander Fox in this that born 1877 WA Perth. 

Herman Julius Schauer before he came to Australia.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=786892.msg6421879#msg6421879

You can see what I'm trying to do is understand how and Australian Mr Fox and a Victorian Ms Schauer marred in New Zealand. My biggest effort is to find out more about Alexander, but I'm also interested int the life of the Schauers since Maries family played a larger roll in the family's life..

Edited in: The parents of Annie Clark.. a side project.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=786889.0


Offline Lucy2

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 13,407
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: The Schauer family's Migration to New Zealand
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 00:46 GMT (UK) »
... [actually still trying to sort out your other current NZ thread.  ;D   ]

Others on here will also want to help you with this ... so it is helpful for us to know more precisely, just what you are trying to find out about these people ... and as you've mentioned previous "searching" or discussion having taken place on the subject(s), then it's a good idea to provide actual links to previous threads.   
It can sometimes save those endeavouring to help you, a lot of extra effort in searching.

   ~  Lu


Offline Seany

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 50
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: The Schauer family's Migration to New Zealand
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 02:11 GMT (UK) »
Already looking again since I posted, I found a couple things.

H Schauer
Birth 1873, leaving on a 1901 Ship to Burnie. More likely Herman.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q25D-N3XC 

Female Schauer. Possibly Marie. (Born abt 1880, Victoria) on a boat in April.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-61K9-5DG

Her brother Carl I think on the same ship.  (Born abt 1874, Victoria)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-61K9-5G2

Thereís a Mrs Schauer with a male child on a 1914 ship.  The Same port Marie and Carl used. May a have been Hermanís wife and one of his sons on a visit to Melbourne?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-61C9-DD3 


R G Schauer born Australia 1884 with a B L Schauer coming to Australia 1930. (2 years after Marie had movied there, and perhaps shortly after the Webb Family, since they lived the rest of their lives in NSW)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6189-4ML
Gustave Rudalph married a Bertha Laura Watson 1922 in NZ, and she died in NSW 1960. Not sure what happened to Gustave. Donít know whether they had children.

Frederick Schauer may have never went to New Zealand.
Annie Davey sure did, though I donít know about her husband. The fact her baby is named after her previous husband might say their relationship broken down before she born. Or maybe as she was illiterate, she mistaken the question on the forms?

She Schauers were such a unique name. Some of them even got into trouble around WW1 for having names that sounded too German.

Hey Lucy2, I don't mean to stretch you with old mysteries of old certain families. I hope you're enjoying your NZ holidays.


Offline Johnf04

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 493
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: The Schauer family's Migration to New Zealand
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 02:43 GMT (UK) »
Herman Julius SCHAUER's probate, 1920, New Zealand.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99L3-Z9KB-T?wc=7HPH-JRL%3A1045248401%2C1292517601%3Fcc%3D1865481&cc=1865481

A snip from the Public Trustee's affidavit
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland

Offline Johnf04

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 493
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: The Schauer family's Migration to New Zealand
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 02:48 GMT (UK) »
A report of the wedding of Carl Albert SCHAUER, about half way down the page.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZFL19010330.2.15?query=Schauer
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland

Offline Johnf04

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 493
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: The Schauer family's Migration to New Zealand
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 02:52 GMT (UK) »
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland

Offline Johnf04

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 493
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: The Schauer family's Migration to New Zealand
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 03:18 GMT (UK) »
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland