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Offline nichbuket

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Finding an 1809 Marriage License
« on: Tuesday 06 February 18 01:54 GMT (UK) »
On 21 july 1809 Anne Castle married James Henney (signed it as Hanney) at St Mary, Islington by license.  It is my hope that finding a copy of that license will help trace them back as we've this brick wall.  The issue is we can't seem to find a copy of it.

Any advice on where to track down a copy would be wonderful.

Thanks,
Nich
Klein, Comiss, Theobald, Hanney, Bernath, Salomonovics, Yakimovsky, Putney, Barlow, Beard, Gibbs, LeVierge, Tree, Trinder, Carter, Malpass, Crampin, Spurgin, Warner, Parker, Medcalf, Amer, Arnold,  Connelly,

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Re: Finding an 1809 Marriage License
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 03:51 GMT (UK) »
Googling the church...

http://www.stmaryislington.org/family-history/

They recommend the London metropolitan archives.
A license has to be got from somewhere but not necessarily from the church where the marriage occurred, so the LMA might be able to say where to look.
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Re: Finding an 1809 Marriage License
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 06:14 GMT (UK) »
It is unlikely you will find the actual licence, these were handed to the groom who handed it to the Vicar. What happened to it after that is anyone's guess. However, all is not lost as the Archdiocese issuing the licence should have a record of the Marriage Licence Bond or Allegation. More info on this site:-  http://www.genguide.co.uk/source/mar...ce-records/34/
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Re: Finding an 1809 Marriage License
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 07:48 GMT (UK) »
Not all of these documents have survived.  Marriage Bonds and Allegations for London are available via Ancestry - however there is no record for James Henney/Anne Castle in 1809. 
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: Finding an 1809 Marriage License
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 09:47 GMT (UK) »
This was not a Bishop of London licence, so it's not on Ancestry.

The licence was issued by the Archbishop of Canterbury through the Faculty Office, on 20 July 1809.

A copy of the allegation or bond can be ordered from the Society of Genealogists in London, who hold microfilms of the records, quoting the date of issue (not of marriage). Cost 15.

http://www.sog.org.uk/books-courses/document-hard-copy-service/

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Re: Finding an 1809 Marriage License
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 09:53 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, Bookbox - always good to find the correct source.   :)
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY

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Re: Finding an 1809 Marriage License
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 11:36 GMT (UK) »
Thank You All!

I had been going through record after record for the wrong source. oy  ::)

Would you recommend when ordering to use the grooms surname as it was indexed in the Parish record or as he signed it or both: Henney/Hanney?

I appreciate everyone's prompt replies and excellent help.

Nich
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Re: Finding an 1809 Marriage License
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 11:51 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the image, I did not interpret James' signature as Hanney
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Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
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Re: Finding an 1809 Marriage License
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 11:59 GMT (UK) »
I would use HENNEY, as this is how the name is spelt in the Faculty Office licence index. The spelling that appears in the marriage register is irrelevant in this context.

Please don't expect too much from the document, as it may add very little to what you already know.

If I remember correctly, for this date in the Faculty Office there are no allegations (which would be more useful), but only bonds. You should get the name of a bondsman, who may be a relative, close friend or business associate of the groom, but probably very little else of genealogical use. It's only fair to warn you.