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Researching my great grandmother Catherine Ryan 1879
« on: Monday 05 February 18 19:16 GMT (UK) »
I think thatís gonna be the way. Iím also researching my great grandmother Catherine Ryan 1879, born Ballingarry, Tipp. Married my great grandfather JohnObrien. Can I find weddings cer, no!!!!! They were both from Ballingarry, immigrated to Manchester. Iíve got 1911 census, thatís it!!!!! Lived in Manchester England.

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Re: Re: Cummins family in mancheter Help!!
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 February 18 19:51 GMT (UK) »
I canít see them in Manchester in 1911 :-\

Do their birthplaces show in 1911 as Ballingarry?

When did they marry? Was that Ireland or Manchester?

I think I have them now.
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Re: Re: Cummins family in mancheter Help!!
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 February 18 20:22 GMT (UK) »
No, I canít see a marriage either.

I wonder if this is Kateís birth- awful writing but number 291

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Re: Re: Cummins family in mancheter Help!!
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 February 18 21:36 GMT (UK) »
It will not let me see the birth record. In the 1911 census they have been married for 3 years. Twins John & William 2 years, Joseph 7m. Two lodgers. Address 3 High Burton Street. I know Catherine had a sister Mary. I donít understand why I cannot find a marriage cert. they were Roman Catholic.

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Re: Re: Cummins family in mancheter Help!!
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 February 18 21:41 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I found them, thanks,

You usually have to solve a captcha and then you will get the page.
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Re: Re: Cummins family in mancheter Help!!
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 February 18 21:49 GMT (UK) »
Great thanks just opened it. Your right the writing is terrible, Iíve not seen that site before. Iíll have a look and see if this is correct, thanks 👍🏻

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Re: Re: Cummins family in mancheter Help!!
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 February 18 22:10 GMT (UK) »
Are the ages in 1911 consistent with ages in any other records?
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Re: Re: Cummins family in mancheter Help!!
« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 February 18 22:33 GMT (UK) »
I have bothe death Certs of a John and Kate/Catherine. They are birthdate from them are within a yearíish. I know these are the correct death certs as they died on the same day but different years. Been to the grave as well.

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Re: Re: Cummins family in mancheter Help!!
« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 February 18 22:39 GMT (UK) »
So he was a few years younger?

Were the two boys twins, William and John? Do you have their birth records?
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