Author Topic: Change to birth certificate - reasons? Please help  (Read 693 times)

Offline dawnsh

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Re: Change to birth certificate - reasons? Please help
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 10:02 GMT (UK) »
The only problem in this instance with ordering online from the GRO is that they will automatically send you the 1948 entry as the 1947 has been supeseded even if you order the 1947 entry.

If you want the 1947, you will be better off ordering by phone and insisting you want the earlier entry as well as the later one.

Buying both certs will cost 18.50
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Re: Change to birth certificate - reasons? Please help
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 10:35 GMT (UK) »
Joseph McIntyre married Mary Campbell in Blackburn in 1934.  Joseph was aged 20 and Mary 23. Both were single.
I can't see any birth registered of a McIntyre child with mother's maiden name Campbell during the years between that marriage and the birth of Lilian Lavinia. 
Joseph and Mary, appearing in Willesden, Middlesex in the 1939 register have no children with them.

So if, as it seems, Joseph was the informant at the registration of Lilian Lavinia's birth, he was doing something he had probably never done before.  If he had  not expected the question, "Your wife's maiden name?" he might easily have answered with the truth before realising why that was the wrong answer in this situation.
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Re: Change to birth certificate - reasons? Please help
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 12:03 GMT (UK) »
So if, as it seems, Joseph was the informant at the registration of Lilian Lavinia's birth, he was doing something he had probably never done before.  If he had  not expected the question, "Your wife's maiden name?" he might easily have answered with the truth before realising why that was the wrong answer in this situation.

Without seeing the certificate, we don't know who the informant was, whether a father is even named (he probably is, but there are scenarios that would generate the same index entry without) , or what they said. There are a number of scenarios that would fit - from simple mistake or misunderstanding through to fraud/perjury.

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Re: Change to birth certificate - reasons? Please help
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 12:35 GMT (UK) »
It is true that it is best to see a copy of the registration, but to get the birth registered with the father's name (we know that it's there because it is indexed under McIntyre, and originally not under any other name), and with the mother's maiden name as Campbell, the most likely scenario is as I described.  I was simply offering a possible explanation as to how that might have come about.

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