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Tom Arnall
« on: Wednesday 07 February 18 21:17 GMT (UK) »
I'm trying to find any information on the early life of Tom Arnall.

The facts that I know are that Tom marries Elizabeth Ann Stokes in 1882 at West Ham this is the first time I come across Tom.

In the 1891 census p/n 1322 f 42 p 81 the family are living in West Ham,Tom is a Lighterman,age 32, and states that he was born in  Bermonsey, living with Tom and Elizabeth are three of their children and two of Elizabeth's brothers.

In the 1901 census p/n 1584 f 51 p 39 Tom and Elizabeth are still living in West Ham with 5 children and Elizabeth's brother Joseph and his wife Ellen. Tom is age 43 and again states that he was born in Bermonsey.

In the 1911 census the family are still living at the same address as in 1901 with 4 children and a niece Tom is age 53 and states he was born in West Ham.

In the 1939 register Tom and Elizabeth are still living at 11 Peter st. Tom states that he was born on the 1/8/1858 he is a Lighterman retired living with Tom and Elizabeth is their son William.

I have been unable to find a birth for Tom.

Tom dies on the 2/12/1942 in Romford.

In the 1881 census p/n 580 f 12 p17 there is a William Arnell age 33 also a Lighterman born in Bermonsey living in Rotherhithe.

Would anyone be able to give me any information on Tom prior to the marriage in1882

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Re: Tom Arnall
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 21:44 GMT (UK) »
Possible in 1881
12,Arkwright Street, West Ham
Harriet Anall head mar 50                      London Middlesex
Tom     Anall son     s   22  Waterman        "           "

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Re: Tom Arnall
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 22:33 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Cathy for finding Tom in the 1881 census.

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Re: Tom Arnall
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 22:42 GMT (UK) »
Tom   Arnall
Bound date   10 Oct 1876
Date free   11 Oct 1881
Master's first name Edward Festus Lowe
Where from notes   West Ham
Source   Binding Records 1692-1949
Record set   Thames Watermen & Lightermen 1688-2010

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Tom Arnall
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Also this one, maybe related?

Henry Thomas   Arnall
Bound date 13 Dec 1870
Date free   13 Feb 1877
Master's first name   William John   Arnall
Where from notes   West Ham
Source   Binding Records 1692-1949
Record set   Thames Watermen & Lightermen 1688-2010

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Tom Arnall
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 23:05 GMT (UK) »
Unsure if the 1881 Tom is yours?

Marriages Jun Q 1853   
Arnall    William John        W Ham    4a   23   
Richards    Harriet        W.Ham    4a   23   

ARNALL HENRY  THOMAS  mmn   RICHARDS     
GRO Reference: 1856  J Quarter in WEST HAM UNION  Volume 04A  Page 10   

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Tom Arnall
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 February 18 09:32 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Cas for your replies and for the information from the Thames Watermen and Lighterman records.

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Re: Tom Arnall
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 24 February 18 21:17 GMT (UK) »
I now think that the marriage between William Arnall and Harriet Richards in 1853 was William's second having been married to Clara Sarah Mold in 1842. Clara died in 1853.

In the 1861 census 1059 9 31 William and Harriet are living with William's first two children from his marriage to Clara, Clara and William and also three children from his marriage to Harriet Eliza,Henry and John.

I now think that the Tom I'm researching is Henry Thomas and at some time he drops the Henry.

I would appreciat any views on this.

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Re: Tom Arnall
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 February 18 07:36 GMT (UK) »
You mention the 1882 marriage, do you have the certificate if so can you give the details for Tom & his father
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