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DUNN family of Pontypridd 1940s
« on: Wednesday 07 February 18 22:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi all while usually I am posting about my ancestors, last week I was with my friend who runs our community library in London and she mentioned in passing that she had never seen a photograph of her father.

I said that as I am used to digging around I would see if I might be able to find anything. Well amazingly I was able to make contact with a cousin of her father and yesterday she received an email with a photograph. It was an amazing thing and I am delighted for her, especially as she does so much in our community.

Now though, I am moving on to see if I can try and find out some more about her family. This relates to the fact he had a first wife and was said by her to have had a daughter. We have no name of the daughter who would be my friend's elder sister and I am trying to see if this was indeed true.

We have the marriage certificate which took place in The Register Office, Pontypridd on 28th May 1948. This was between William Cowie Dunbar, a 22 year old Aero Fitter, and Dorothy Dunn, a 17 year old Factory Typist.

Her father was James Arthur Dunn, a general labourer. The witnesses were Walter P. Gay and Elizabeth F. Gay.

Now I know that William and Dorothy divorced as on his second marriage in 1953 it states marriage dissolved.

But I can't find a birth for a person with the name Dunbar and maiden name Dunn between 1948 and 1953 and I can't trace Dorothy's birth in Wales in c1930-1931 so I have no idea where she was born.

Has anyone therefore please got any ideas which might be helpful? If my friend has a half sister she would very much like to know. Her father died in 1955 when she was a baby and her mother when she was 16 so there are many gaps to try and fill in.

Many thanks,
Jon

 

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Re: DUNN family of Pontypridd 1940s
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 22:30 GMT (UK) »
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But I can't find a birth for a person with the name Dunbar and maiden name Dunn

Your post says Dunn married Dunn?

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This was between William Cowie Dunn, a 22 year old Aero Fitter, and Dorothy Dunn, a 17 year old Factory Typist.

Her father was James Arthur Dunn, a general labourer. The witnesses were Walter P. Gay and Elizabeth F. Gay.

He was William Cowie Dunbar
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Re: DUNN family of Pontypridd 1940s
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 22:31 GMT (UK) »
The 1939 register should come up with candidates (not just limited to wales)

Can't see where any Dunbar came into it.
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Re: DUNN family of Pontypridd 1940s
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 22:38 GMT (UK) »
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and was said by her to have had a daughter

In the absence of any birth reg - how reliable is that info?

Could Dorothy have remarried and that daughter was born to her second marriage?
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Re: DUNN family of Pontypridd 1940s
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Freebmd has a Walter P Gay marriage in 1938 to Elizabeth F Dunn

Births September qtr 1920 
Dunn    Elizabeth F    Creener    Pontypridd    11a   1306
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Re: DUNN family of Pontypridd 1940s
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 22:48 GMT (UK) »
mmn should be Greener

Marriages Dec qtr 1913 
Dunn    James A     Cardiff    11a   689    
Greener    Maude L      Cardiff    11a   689

Deaths

Maude Liddle Dunn 94 born 19 Jan 1890
Death reg Sep 1984 Ogwr   27  650
 
 
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Re: DUNN family of Pontypridd 1940s
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 22:53 GMT (UK) »
Free search of 1939 register has this entry, this would give you her dob

Dorothy Anderson (Dunbar,Dunn) 1930
Llantrisant and Llantwit Fardre R.D.
Glamorganshire Wales

Forgot to add
Charles F Greener b1873 also on this record and Elizabeth J Greener 1878
Plus one person officially closed

Greener    Charles Frederick    Jun 1873    Durham    10a   390

Edit  - Charles and Elizabeth Greener are brother and sister see censuses parent Henry & Jane

Elizabeth J Greener  died age. 71 Mar 1950 Pontypridd   Glamorganshire Volume:   8b Page:   682
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Re: DUNN family of Pontypridd 1940s
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 23:44 GMT (UK) »
Taken me a while using free search criteria 1939

Dorothy Anderson (Dunbar, Dunn) birth date is 03 12 1930

I can’t find a birth entry for a Dorothy Dunn on FreeBMD
Dec qtr. 1930  to Mar qtr. 1931   ???
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Re: DUNN family of Pontypridd 1940s
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 February 18 00:06 GMT (UK) »
Oh wow! Thanks so much, everyone.

The story about William having another daughter came from his sisters-in-laws [sisters on his second wife). They would have known him and their sister and this was talked about so I think there must be some truth to it. Except of course this might have been to another woman.

I am so pleased to have found out about Dorothy Dunn/Dunbar. Having looked at other 1939 register entries I know Anderson must have been a married name or a name she adopted legally. A lot more digging to do but this is great.

Thank so much.