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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 08 February 18 18:16 GMT (UK) »
I did look earlier for children of Dempsey/Reilly but could see any in Carlow reg district.

Maybe they lived elsewhere after they married.

Without a fact for one particular child, name, birth year it is very difficult!

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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 08 February 18 18:49 GMT (UK) »
Some background, as requested: I try to compile an ancestry tree, with all (well, not all, obviously) ancestors of my daughter-in-law Jill O'Reilly. Around 1910, her great-grandfather, James Reilly (born 19 Oct 1886 in Carlow) migrated to England. The earliest ancestor in the male line I have so far is Thomas Reilly, RC baptized in Doonane Parish on 1 January 1822. He married 30 Sep 1846 to Margaret Brennan (bapt. 1 Sep 1824).
This couple had four children, of whom James Reilly (bapt. 26 Dec 1849 Killeshin Parish, Co. Carlow) was my d-i-l's great-great-great-grandfather. One of the other three children was Elizabeth Reilly, bapt. 16 Jan 1853. I try to document not only the direct ancestors, but also their siblings (and the spouses of these siblings). That is why I am interested in the details of Elizabeth. As I could not find the death of Elizabeth Reilly without knowing her husband's name, I tried to find her husband and children.

What is certain about Eliza(beth) Reilly (spelled Reiley on the marriage certificate) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10829/5949754.pdf is her baptism and her marriage on 9 March 1886 in the RC Chapel of Mayo, Reg.District Ballickmoyler in Co. Laois, with a John Dempsey, farmer, whose father, also John Dempsey, was also a farmer. Elizabeth's father was Thomas Reilly. Elizabeth and father Thomas lived in townland Dromagh.

Thus, help in finding
--the death of Elizabeth Dempsey, née Reilly
--the birth and death of her husband John Dempsey
--the children of John and Elizabeth
is very welcome.

Thank you.

Nicolaas

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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 08 February 18 19:15 GMT (UK) »
We just have to catch up with you by getting our heads around the records.
James Reilly born 19 Oct 1886, father James mother Ellen Dugan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02580/1953768.pdf
is this your James?

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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 08 February 18 19:20 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 08 February 18 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Some background, as requested: I try to compile an ancestry tree, with all (well, not all, obviously) ancestors of my daughter-in-law Jill O'Reilly. Around 1910, her great-grandfather, James Reilly (born 19 Oct 1886 in Carlow) migrated to England. The earliest ancestor in the male line I have so far is Thomas Reilly, RC baptized in Doonane Parish on 1 January 1822. He married 30 Sep 1846 to Margaret Brennan (bapt. 1 Sep 1824).
This couple had four children, of whom James Reilly (bapt. 26 Dec 1849 Killeshin Parish, Co. Carlow) was my d-i-l's great-great-great-grandfather. One of the other three children was Elizabeth Reilly, bapt. 16 Jan 1853. I try to document not only the direct ancestors, but also their siblings (and the spouses of these siblings). That is why I am interested in the details of Elizabeth. As I could not find the death of Elizabeth Reilly without knowing her husband's name, I tried to find her husband and children.

What is certain about Eliza(beth) Reilly (spelled Reiley on the marriage certificate) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10829/5949754.pdf is her baptism and her marriage on 9 March 1886 in the RC Chapel of Mayo, Reg.District Ballickmoyler in Co. Laois, with a John Dempsey, farmer, whose father, also John Dempsey, was also a farmer. Elizabeth's father was Thomas Reilly. Elizabeth and father Thomas lived in townland Dromagh.

Thus, help in finding
--the death of Elizabeth Dempsey, née Reilly
--the birth and death of her husband John Dempsey
--the children of John and Elizabeth
is very welcome.

Thank you.

Nicolaas

OK...searching for James, 14 or 15 in 1901 Census using the search below, gets you 3 results

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01liz/



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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 08 February 18 20:45 GMT (UK) »
It may be the case that James and Elizabeth didn't have any children.

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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #17 on: Friday 09 February 18 00:13 GMT (UK) »
The marriage cert had Coorlane for John Dempsey address, using the OSI mapviewer there is a Coolane (not marked) in the townland of Coolaghan with this couple
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Ardough/Coorlaghan/787017/
but in each census she is 10 years too young, not married quite long enough either

If I'm correct and the other Dempsey living near by is his brother, than this John's father is William.
Dead end.