Author Topic: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford  (Read 244 times)

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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #18 on: Friday 09 February 18 08:37 GMT (UK) »
We just have to catch up with you by getting our heads around the records.
James Reilly born 19 Oct 1886, father James mother Ellen Dugan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02580/1953768.pdf
is this your James?

Yes, this is the correct James. And he is in the third of the three 1901 census records posted by Hallmark (and that records includes his father James and mother Ellen [Deegan]. This latter James is the brother of Ellen Reilly, whose death, husband and children I am trying to find.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #19 on: Friday 09 February 18 09:48 GMT (UK) »
If they are in Coorlaghan they'd be registered in Carlow..
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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #20 on: Friday 09 February 18 09:56 GMT (UK) »
First, thank you for your kind and quick help! (I am a Dutchman, trying to piece together the 

Now knowing that I was on the wrong path, I looked again and found in the 1901 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Mountmellick_Rural/Avoley/1650174/ an Elizabeth Dempsey as a widow with two children.

Thanks again,

Nicolaas

Elizabeth...Widow, 8 children, 7 alive, 16 yrs married....

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Mountmellick_Rural/Avoley/793631/

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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #21 on: Friday 09 February 18 10:09 GMT (UK) »
Civil Reg Marriage results for Elizabeth Reilly from 1890 to 1898
1890s

Displaying results 1 - 72 of 72. http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lj5/

Not there!!

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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #22 on: Friday 09 February 18 10:28 GMT (UK) »
We have her marriage on page one, 1886 so that widow Elizabeth's children are too old.

They might have emigrated, I was looking at a couple in America but again the children were too old.


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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #23 on: Friday 09 February 18 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Than again can we be sure that is the correct marriage!

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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #24 on: Friday 09 February 18 11:19 GMT (UK) »
We have her marriage on page one, 1886 so that widow Elizabeth's children are too old.

They might have emigrated, I was looking at a couple in America but again the children were too old.

yes... I was just looking for that one, but not on Civil Reg!

With Census Links, Marriages, Births etc it's confusing as to who has been found, who has not!!

What is certain about Eliza(beth) Reilly (spelled Reiley on the marriage certificate) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10829/5949754.pdf is her baptism and her marriage on 9 March 1886 in the RC Chapel of Mayo, Reg.District Ballickmoyler in Co. Laois, with a John Dempsey, farmer, whose father, also John Dempsey, was also a farmer. Elizabeth's father was Thomas Reilly. Elizabeth and father Thomas lived in townland Dromagh.

What children have been found for this couple? only??

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Re: Offspring of John Dempsey and Elizabeth Reilly, 1878-1893 Laois/Wexford
« Reply #25 on: Friday 09 February 18 11:28 GMT (UK) »
Than again can we be sure that is the correct marriage!

I am reasonably convinced that the Eliza Reilly who married John Dempsey on 9 March 1886 in the RC Chapel of Mayo, Reg.District Ballickmoyler, Co. Laois, is the correct Elizabeth born 1853. The name and occupation of her father, and especially her townland at the time of the marriage, all fit.

That means that the widow Elizabeth Dempsey in the 1901 and 1911 census, Avoley, Mountmellick Rural, who had been married for 16 years in 1911, cannot be the correct Elizabeth.

The townland given in the baptism record for John Dempsey 1848 "Coorlane" fits the townland in his marriage record.


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