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John Bate.
« on: Friday 09 February 18 03:30 GMT (UK) »
 Dorothy Bate born 1 Dec 1799 in Egloshayle Cornwell.  Died 23 Feb 1853 Egloshayle.
 Married  Thomas R Curgenven in 1823. He was born 23 Oct 1789 St Kew, Cornwell. Died 1840 St Kew, Cornwell.
Son John born 1824 in Cornwell? and died in Melbourne Victoria in 1902.

 How likely would it be that the son John would be called John Bate and not John Curgenven?

Thank-you for any help.
Sandie.



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Re: John Bate.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 February 18 03:53 GMT (UK) »
John Bate. baptised  15 Aug 1824, St Petroc, Egloshayle.  mother Dorothy Bate, Register note    Dorothy Bate single woman.

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Re: John Bate.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 February 18 04:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Solidrock, I hadn't seen that entry. I presume that she later married Thomas Curgenven but son John kept her name?? 
I might have it all wrong.
Sandie.

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Re: John Bate.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 February 18 05:34 GMT (UK) »
I don't think Dorothy ever married the parish registers for  Egloshayle  show her death 1853 as does the GRO.

BATE, DOROTHY        60      
GRO Reference: 1853  J Quarter in BODMIN  Volume 05C  Page 73

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Re: John Bate.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 February 18 06:31 GMT (UK) »
Thank-you Solidrock. You're right, it seems that Dorothy remained single.
Sandie.

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Re: John Bate.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 February 18 08:23 GMT (UK) »
Name     Dorothy Bate   
 Event Type     Census   
 Event Date     1851   
 Event Place     Egloshayle, Cornwall, England   
 Registration District     Bodmin   
 Gender     Female   
 Age     50   
 Marital Status     Unmarried   
 Occupation     House Servant   
 Relationship to Head of Household     Servant   
 Birth Year (Estimated)     1801   
 Birthplace     Egloshayle, Cornwall   
 Page Number     27   
 Registration Number     HO107   
 Piece/Folio     1904 / 748   
 Affiliate Record Type     Household 
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Re: John Bate.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 February 18 11:11 GMT (UK) »
In case you dint have it Dorothys Parents Marriage is on FreeREG 29 Sep 1794
Dorothys Siblings baptisms;
Elizabeth 12 Jul 1795
Mary Anne 16 Apr 1797
Jenipher 17 Apr 1803
George 20 Apr 1806
Walter 26 Mar 1809

Possible Burials;
GEORGE Bate 23 Feb 1825 age 60, abode Washaway
ANN Bate 04 Aug 1835 age 66, abode Treglith

Possible Marriages;
Mary Ann Bate 30 Sep 1820
George Bate 20 Nov 1830
Walter Bate 15 May 1830

All entries St Petroc , Egloshayle

Trish :)

+ possible Marriage for Jenefer Bate 1823 St Agnes
(after looking at Census may not be her)
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: John Bate.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 February 18 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Looks like Walter Bate was transported 1836 for Sheep stealing.

GEORGE Bate christened 30 Jun 1765, St Protus and St Hyacinth, Blisland
Mother DOROTHY Bate
Siblings;
Thomasin 27 Apr 1755
Cordealia 08 Feb 1761, buried 28 May 1761
Mary 01 Feb 1763
Sarah 08 May 1768
Dorothy 19 Jan 1777

All Have Mother as Dorothy, some bastard of or base child is noted

Possible Burial for Dorothy 07 Nov 1790, a pauper

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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)