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1889 diary chief butlers
« on: Friday 09 February 18 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Any help with the xxxs and related text here is much appreciated.

"well I suppose famers are quite as big people
as tradesfolk & I shouldn’t like my women kind to mix
with servants even tho they be chief butlers - still my
people are very different to even the exclusive Carrie Bromley
& it seems queer that they (Davis + co & farmers) shouldn’t mix. Tho amusing how
"

All the bold text is through help here. Fine folks here are brightening my transcription from dark uncertainty to wonder. Thank you.

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Re: 1889 diary chief butlers
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 February 18 21:41 GMT (UK) »
Can't see the bottom line but could the xxxxxxx be exclusive or exclude
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Re: 1889 diary chief butlers
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 February 18 01:14 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for those Millipede, I'm now favouring exclusion but failing to find the meaning.

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Re: 1889 diary chief butlers
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 February 18 01:19 GMT (UK) »
... very different to even the exclusive Carrie ...

... queer that they ^(xxx xxx & the farmers)^ shouldn’t mix.

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Re: 1889 diary chief butlers
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 February 18 01:46 GMT (UK) »
On the first line, your xx looks like "by", but because he always shortens "ing" to "g", it could also be something like "trying".  The Q in quite is extremely different than in queer, so I'm not overly committed to thinking it is quite.

I'm wondering of the bracketed words should follow the word difficult, as in:
people are very different (I am & co & the farmers) to(?) even the exclusive Carrie Bromly.

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Re: 1889 diary chief butlers
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 February 18 09:20 GMT (UK) »
1st line could be  ... big people, in the sense of social status, comparing tradespeople with farmers.

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Re: 1889 diary chief butlers
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 February 18 10:33 GMT (UK) »
Thank you bbbat and Bookbox and thanks again Milliepede,

Great work

I get exclusive now.

The trying / big  options are interesting
There is a big here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=786937.0 in the last line of the image in the first post and one attached.

Two trying are also attached.

I think that the (I am xxx & the farmers) text is in the right place as I see a clear insert symbol subscript between they and shouldnt

I will address quite in another posting.

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Re: 1889 diary chief butlers
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 February 18 11:49 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm...    ??? ;D

The bit in brackets is bugging me.

I've zoomed in on it and I don't think it's "I am"...the "I" doesn't look right for him.

To me, it looks like queer that they (Nans/Hans/Vans<?> + co & the farmers) shouldn't mix.

I'm with Bookbox on to even the exclusive... The closing bracket of the inserted phrase misleadingly makes "the" look like "they".

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McDonald MacDonald M'Donald McGregor MacGregor M'Gregor Twilley Wells Fentiman Carrington Rowe Needham Mitchell Mackie Collingwood Fuller Maides Shilton Hagon Budd

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Re: 1889 diary chief butlers
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 February 18 12:01 GMT (UK) »
I've zoomed in on it and I don't think it's "I am"...the "I" doesn't look right for him.
To me, it looks like queer that they (Nans/Hans/Vans<?> + co & the farmers) shouldn't mix.

I agree. The inserted parenthesis explains the identity of they -- i.e. somebody and the farmers.

Could it be ... (?airs & co & the farmers) ? Is there a person's name higher up that is being referenced here?