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Re: Ward family 1700 backwards
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 10 February 18 18:36 GMT (UK) »
Some background information on parish of Cockerham from "A History of the County of Lancaster" vol 8:
"The boundaries of this parish are peculiar. .........The parochial boundaries of Cockerham and Garstang are much intermixed."

The following notes about vicars of Cockerham provide insight into some reasons why some parish registers are less perfect than we would wish.
1650: William Calvert was Vicar. He was sequestered for "delinquency" that year. Thomas Smith, officiating minister died from a "pestilence" in August 1650. There was no minister during September & October . (This was the English Civil War and Commonwealth period. The king had been executed in 1649. His son later attempted to regain the throne and brought an army to England which briefly restarted the war. Clergy were removed if their views didn't accord with whatever religious dogma was in the ascendancy at the time, and that could change rapidly, one way and then another.)
1737-1781: Thomas Winder was Vicar. He "became deranged" in his later years and Cockerham was under sequestration for a long period before his death.
(A History of the County of Lancaster. Vol. 8
Originally published by Victoria County History, London 1914
Extracts on line as British History Online
www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol8/pp89-93

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Re: Ward family 1700 backwards
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 10 February 18 18:55 GMT (UK) »
This is my issue. I went to Northampton to do some research at the centre there, and was given some help.  My first time this far back.  All information I found on Ancestry, hoping to go to Preston next month

Foster, Lyon, Marginson, Ward all from Preston area

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Re: Ward family 1700 backwards
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 10 February 18 19:25 GMT (UK) »
Have you consulted Lancashire Archives online catalogue? What are you hoping to find at Preston?
Do you know what your Thomas Ward of Winmarleigh did for a living? Would he have made a will? You can order copies of wills from Lancashire Archives catalogue online. I paid 2 per page for mine + postage.
Are you a member of Lancashire Family History & Heraldry Society? It has branches which cover the relevant areas. Lancaster branch has its' own website. LFHHS has an online forum.
If you're going to Preston, visit Garstang on market-day. Buy local cheese and other local food. Plenty of places to eat in Garstang town and choice of 2 old pubs in Churchtown,  1 very near St. Helen's church. Garstang has more pubs than most towns of a similar size. That's because they were coaching inns. It was a busy place during the stagecoach era.

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Re: Ward family 1700 backwards
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 11 February 18 00:57 GMT (UK) »
The marriage of Henry Ward & Alice Shorrock was at St. Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, 31st Dec. 1730, not  31st Dec. 1733.

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Re: Ward family 1700 backwards
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 11 February 18 06:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi tracey123,

Could you please answer my question earlier please?

Do you have any children born to Thomas/Susannah? or are you descended from Thomas/Ellen?
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Re: Ward family 1700 backwards
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 11 February 18 15:25 GMT (UK) »
Sorry forgot to log out last night. 

Children for Henry and Alice.

I have Thomas who was married to Ellen and susannah

I have Thomas's children John, Ann, William and Richard

Tracy
Foster, Lyon, Marginson, Ward all from Preston area

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Re: Ward family 1700 backwards
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 11 February 18 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Yes i am a decendent,  Thomas Ward 1733 Would be my grandfather x5.  I am trying to go back as far as i can including all siblings

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Re: Ward family 1700 backwards
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 11 February 18 15:44 GMT (UK) »
My reasoning behind going to Preston is.
1.  I can photograph any grave stones
2.  Maybe go to the archives and research?
3.  I have just goinged the LFH&H last night. so hoping to meet some of them.
4. Last of all my daughter is now at university there and a visit to her is overdue

I have booked onto some course by the SOG. and also been looking at Pharos for ideas.

I use Lancashire OPC.  Only recently restated looking for family again

I will visit Garstang as I also live in a market town  in Oxfordshire and believe in supporting them.
Foster, Lyon, Marginson, Ward all from Preston area

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Re: Ward family 1700 backwards
« Reply #17 on: Monday 12 February 18 01:22 GMT (UK) »
Children for Henry and Alice.

I have Thomas who was married to Ellen and susannah

I have Thomas's children John, Ann, William and Richard

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Are these the children of Thomas you mean?  All from baptism register of St. Helen, Garstang. Parents of all were Thomas & Ellen:
September 1787 William Ward, son of Thomas & Ellen, abode Catteral
May 1789 Ann Ward, daughter of Thomas & Ellin, abode Catteral
Jan. 1791 William Ward, son of Thomas & Ellin, abode Catteral
June 1792 William Ward, son of Thomas & Ellen, abode Nateby
June 1795 John Ward, son of Thomas & Ellen, abode Nateby
Jan. 1797 Richard Ward, son of Thomas & Ellen, abode Nateby


These 2 may have been children of the same couple:
Sept. 1799 Alice Moon Ward, daughter of Thomas & Ellen, abode Nateby
Jan. 1802 Edward Ward, son of Thomas & Ellen, abode Nateby

These births fit in well with the 1787 marriage and the burial of Ellen in 1807 at St. Helen's Garstang which were posted by trish on Saturday. Catterall and Nateby are both within 2 miles of Garstang so likely that Thomas moved around the parish, perhaps to different farms.
If the same couple, Thomas and Ellen were parents of all 8 of the children then they seemed to be very keen on the name William, 3 sons baptised with the name. This leads me to think that William was the name of a grandfather.
I wonder why Alice (1799) has middle name Moon.