Author Topic: Elsie M LORENZ d 1931 registration Blackwood, WA  (Read 464 times)

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Re: Elsie M LORENZ d 1931 registration Blackwood, WA
« Reply #9 on: Monday 12 February 18 13:59 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much Rosball, Essie, matthewj64, & warncoort  :) :) :)

The finds are brilliant and so very much appreciated.

I am trying to narrow down a second marriage time frame for Eaneas Matthias who married Christian Gladys sometime after the death of Elsie.

At this point in time I have no maiden name for Christian Gladys, nor a place of birth which may be England but where is as yet unknown although I do have a possible date of birth of 8 Jul 1901.  This date was given on passenger manifest of 1958 & 1959. 

I am wondering if Elsie Mary LORENZ nee BROWNE probate was resolved in England if she too may have been born in England???

Eneas recuperated from war injuries in England during the war  and maybe this is where he and Elsie and maybe Christian Gladys met?

Still very little on which to search as yet.

Westy

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Re: Elsie M LORENZ d 1931 registration Blackwood, WA
« Reply #10 on: Monday 12 February 18 15:25 GMT (UK) »
Were his wives sisters?
WA marriage 1938 Reg#1907 Eaneas M. LORENZ and Gladys BROWNE; Perth

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Re: Elsie M LORENZ d 1931 registration Blackwood, WA
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 12:55 GMT (UK) »
Hello cupolife,

I don't know if both his wives were sisters but I will follow the lead and see where it takes me.

Westy

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Re: Elsie M LORENZ d 1931 registration Blackwood, WA
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Were his wives sisters?
WA marriage 1938 Reg#1907 Eaneas M. LORENZ and Gladys BROWNE; Perth

UK Incoming passenger list for Strathnaver arrived 20 July 1958 from Australia
Eneas and Gladys LORENZ
DoB: 17.10.96 & 8.7.01
Address in UK: c/o Mrs Tillett, Heath Rd, Thorpe End, Norwich
8 month stay
(add - Elsie J M LORENZ married Robert G L TILLET, Norfolk 1955)

UK Outward passenger list for Stratheden departure 3 Feb 1959 for Australia
Eaneas M. and Gladys LORENZ
DoB: 17.10.96 & 8.7.99
Address in UK: The Rookery, 28 Cotman Rd, Norwich

Maybe this is Elsie and Gladys? though note changes in year of birth for Gladys
From Norfolk, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915 on Ancestry
Multiple baptisms on 11 Sep 1909, Norwich St Swithin, parents Henry George (wine merchant) and Louisa Rosina BROWNE of 84 West Pottergate st Norwich
Violet Harriette b. 18 Feb 1892
Margarite b. 31 Jul 1893
Elsie Mary b. 24 May 1895
Gladys b. 8 July 1898
Winifred b. 7 May 1900

add - UK Outward passenger list, Jervis Bay, departed 1 May 1929 for Australia
Lorenz Mr Eneas M farmer 32
Browne Miss Elsie M Clerk 31
Browne Miss Gladys B Home duties 30
Last address in UK - 84, W, Portergate. Norwich
contracted to land- Fremantle

add - Gladys Lorenz death 2003 aged 105 years (edit - in New Zealand reg. 2003/26262, DoB 8/7/1898)
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KM00000145

add - UK Outward passenger list, Jervis Bay dept. 30 July 1938
Browne, Miss Gladys, secretary, 38
Lorenz, Miss Elsie, scholar, 7
84, West Pottergate, Norwich
to Fremantle
edit - line through these on the list and they reappear on the passenger list for Moreton Bay dept 5 Oct 1938

add - UK Incoming passenger list, Ormonde arr. Nov 1935
Miss G Browne, secretary, 30
Miss EJ Lorenz, child, 4
Angle House, West Pottergate, Norwich, Norfolk
Port of embarkation - Fremantle

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Re: Elsie M LORENZ d 1931 registration Blackwood, WA
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 17 February 18 10:30 GMT (UK) »
Hello Matthew,

Gosh thanks so very much.

You have answered every question I had.  So very much appreciated.

Westy