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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 14 February 18 21:54 GMT (UK) »
there is that marriage in Swansea, but it is rather more than 16 years earlier than 1911. Also, as I noted in a previous post, there is a possible Michael Lee born in Swansea who could account for that marriage.

There are possible Thomas birth registrations with maiden surname Harry
John James Thomas june qtr 1892 Swansea mmn Harry
Thomas Thomas dec qtr 1896 Swansea mmn Harry
Mary Hannah Thomas june qtr 1895 Swansea mmn Harry
Margaret Thomas june qtr 1899 Swansea mmn Harry
All these children are with widowed mother Hannah Thomas in Swansea on the 1901 census RG13/5073 folio 95 pg 27, so the couples from that pair of marriages look to be James Thomas/ Hannah Harry and Michael Lee/Annie Sweeney.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 15 February 18 08:42 GMT (UK) »
there is that marriage in Swansea, but it is rather more than 16 years earlier than 1911. Also, as I noted in a previous post, there is a possible Michael Lee born in Swansea who could account for that marriage.

There are possible Thomas birth registrations with maiden surname Harry
John James Thomas june qtr 1892 Swansea mmn Harry
Thomas Thomas dec qtr 1896 Swansea mmn Harry
Mary Hannah Thomas june qtr 1895 Swansea mmn Harry
Margaret Thomas june qtr 1899 Swansea mmn Harry
All these children are with widowed mother Hannah Thomas in Swansea on the 1901 census RG13/5073 folio 95 pg 27, so the couples from that pair of marriages look to be James Thomas/ Hannah Harry and Michael Lee/Annie Sweeney.

Nice work Osprey :-D

I've search on the 1901 and 1911 census' but can't find Michael and Annie Lee grrr

D

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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 15 February 18 21:58 GMT (UK) »
I did find 2 girls with surname Lee and mother's maiden name Sweeney, but couldn't see them in 1901 - Margaret reg sept qtr 1892 & Lilian reg dec qtr 1896.

Possible death regs in Swansea for
Annie Lee aged 26 dec qtr 1897
Michael Lee aged 39 jun qtr 1898
Maggie Lee 0 jun qtr 1893

possible for Lilian Lee in 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWXV-R96

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 18 February 18 10:16 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much for your help Osprey, hopefully I will gain some more useful information when the certificates arrive over the next few days :)


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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 19:41 GMT (UK) »
Ok I have the first two certificates through:

Phyllis Jones
Born 18 Oct 1911
Abercarn

Father: Spencer Jones / Tin plate worker
Mother: Mary Ann Jones formerly Lee

11 Islwyn street Abercarn

How do I go about finding this address in the 1911 census? I am a member of Findmypast.

Regards

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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 20:36 GMT (UK) »
if you're using FindMyPast, chose 1911 census, type Abercarn into the field that says eg Boston and then 11, Islwyn Street into keywords. There may be an easier way.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 21:02 GMT (UK) »
So typical on the 1911 cnesus, there is no record for 11 Islwyn, Abercan. I guess they must have been out! And they weren't there in 1901.

I also have the birth certificate of Mary Ann Lee:

b. 20 Sep 1870
Father: Michael Lee / Cinder fitter (I think)
Mother: Margaret Lee

The address looks like Pond Row, Tredegar

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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 22 February 18 18:23 GMT (UK) »
OK more exciting news (I think) as I now have marriage certificate:

19 Sep 1870
Michael Lee / 23 / Blaina/ Father Timothy Lee
Margaret Gibbon / 19 / Tredegar / Father William Gibbon

I can't make the church name out but was a catholic wedding in the district of Bedwelty.

So I suppose my next avenue is to try and track Timothy Lee on the census returns and in BMD

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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 22 February 18 21:51 GMT (UK) »
the occupation on the birth cert would be cinder filler.

Not spotting Timothy with any ease.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb