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Re: Help needed with German uniforms
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 15 February 18 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Not an expert but could it be a WW2 German "S" Boat (Schnellboot)  Known to the allies as "E" Boat.
Several designs and variations were built. Possibly S26-S29
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Re: Help needed with German uniforms
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 15 February 18 20:23 GMT (UK) »
My suggestion would be an R-Boot (Räumboot) which was a minesweeper type of launch. The reason I'm suggesting this is because of the gun mounted on the fore deck (3.7mm? cannon, 2cm cannon?) which I don't think the E-Boats had?

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Re: Help needed with German uniforms
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 15 February 18 20:37 GMT (UK) »
What's throwing me, too, is what looks like the Luftwaffe insignia on the ship...? Did the Luftwaffe have sea-going Flak Artillerie, or something like that?
ENDSOR: Tamworth/Manchester
LAMB: Leeds/Manchester
SMITH: Manchester
HOLMES: Kirk Ireton/Manchester
WORTHINGTON: Middleton/Manchester
SHORROCK: Manchester
BROOKS: Wilmslow/Knutsford
By marriage in Manchester: BAXENDALE, DODD, EYERS, FIRTH, FISHER, FO(R)STER, HARGREAVES, J(A/E)RVIS, McKEOWN, OSBALDESTON, PICKWELL, PODMORE, SCHOFIELD, SHALLCROSS, STONES, WALKER
GREY, DOYLE, GOLDEN, MONAHAN: Ireland
HAWE, FRENEY, NARY: Co. Kilkenny
DONOHO and variants: Co. Longford

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Re: Help needed with German uniforms
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 15 February 18 20:56 GMT (UK) »
Here's another version of the same image, in case it helps -
ENDSOR: Tamworth/Manchester
LAMB: Leeds/Manchester
SMITH: Manchester
HOLMES: Kirk Ireton/Manchester
WORTHINGTON: Middleton/Manchester
SHORROCK: Manchester
BROOKS: Wilmslow/Knutsford
By marriage in Manchester: BAXENDALE, DODD, EYERS, FIRTH, FISHER, FO(R)STER, HARGREAVES, J(A/E)RVIS, McKEOWN, OSBALDESTON, PICKWELL, PODMORE, SCHOFIELD, SHALLCROSS, STONES, WALKER
GREY, DOYLE, GOLDEN, MONAHAN: Ireland
HAWE, FRENEY, NARY: Co. Kilkenny
DONOHO and variants: Co. Longford


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Re: Help needed with German uniforms
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 15 February 18 22:06 GMT (UK) »
The Luftwaffe operated an air-sea rescue service "Seenotdienst" which included boats. A quick "google" showed that they also had quite a large fleet of boats performing a range of duties including Anti-Aircraft (flak) and various support vessels, which may have been armed. There was also a picture of a white (cream?) forage-type cap identified as belonging to a Seenotdienst crewman.This looks similar to the one worn by the crewman with the pipe 2nd from the left in the crew picture.
Sorry I don't have time to look further into this but I think we are on the right track here.
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Re: Help needed with German uniforms
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 15 February 18 22:25 GMT (UK) »
Aha - that's very good to know. In a quick look I found a similar boat:

http://www.luftwaffe-zur-see.de/Kdo.Schiff/DatenFlB/FlB-5001-6.htm
ENDSOR: Tamworth/Manchester
LAMB: Leeds/Manchester
SMITH: Manchester
HOLMES: Kirk Ireton/Manchester
WORTHINGTON: Middleton/Manchester
SHORROCK: Manchester
BROOKS: Wilmslow/Knutsford
By marriage in Manchester: BAXENDALE, DODD, EYERS, FIRTH, FISHER, FO(R)STER, HARGREAVES, J(A/E)RVIS, McKEOWN, OSBALDESTON, PICKWELL, PODMORE, SCHOFIELD, SHALLCROSS, STONES, WALKER
GREY, DOYLE, GOLDEN, MONAHAN: Ireland
HAWE, FRENEY, NARY: Co. Kilkenny
DONOHO and variants: Co. Longford

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Re: Help needed with German uniforms
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 15 February 18 23:12 GMT (UK) »
That would make perfect sense now. I've just finished reading a book entitled "Shot down and in the drink" by Air Commodore Graham Pitchfork. There are references in it to British/Commonwealth aircrew being picked up by the German equivalent of our Air Sea Rescue Units. It's nice to be able to attach a picture to the story.

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Re: Help needed with German uniforms
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 18 February 18 05:18 GMT (UK) »
Lambendsor,
Good find.
That site "luftwaffe-zur-see" lists the crew members of the ship in their photo. I don't read German but do they have a list of known Luftwaffe boat crews that you could search for your man ?

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