something in his lapel

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Can anybody work out if the little 'badge' ? in the lapel of the gent on the left ( that you can only see half of ) is recognisable to anyone.??

Its a straw clutcher! attempting to discover who he is?

the Gent in the middle is my G.g.grandfather  Robert Argyle Green  1859 - 1933 Leicestershire.

The chaps either side of him look - to be maybe 20 yrs younger at least...

I know they are NOT my Grandfather or his brother.. 

So they are probably just friends.. or cousins .. I had hoped that it was My G g 's brother Albert Alexander Green - 1857 - 1922  but I think he is too Young. 
So its all guess work, but knowing the badge / pin may add an inkling.

thank you

xin

[Pennines]

Might it be a poppy? The chap in the middle appears to have something in his lapel also -- there's just a little of it showing.

If it is -- it doesn't help with your query though.

[Deskman]

It looks to me like a 'flag day' flower, poppy or otherwise.
I think there was quite a range of such emblems (just as there is now) 1914-1922. I  think there are collectors of such things.

If you are really keen it may be worth asking Sarah E H Moore of Royal Holloway College and author of Ribbon Culture: Charity, Compassion, and Public Awareness (Palgrave Macmillan 2008) if she recognises it. Sarah.Moore@rhul.ac.uk

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Thank you

So they were probably out together for some March or something... Look like they are in their Sunday best


appreciate your help


xin

[Deskman]

Not that it will help any but I think they are at a livestock event

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Not that it will help any but I think they are at a livestock event

Just querying what brought that to mind



xin

[Deskman]

OK

I may have got it all wrong but...

Beyond the three I think I see on the right just under the man's collar part of an ox tail and on the left behind your g g grandfather the back of an ox's head and in between the two men the line of the back of an ox.

The stick held appears to be of sort a stockman might carry.

The three men are well dressed.

The three appear to be sitting on a rustic seat. Note the strut behind your g g grandfathers leg. Such rustic garden furniture and summer houses were very fashionable from about 1856 to 1939. These seats were marketed at county and agricultural shows by the manufacturers. Part of the opportunity for the manufacturer was to be able to promote their wares be having them available to used by show goers (I'm working on the development of rustic summer houses in England, their design and the lineage of the manufacturing families; Butt, Inman,  Kitson, Pinninger, Smith, Standish, Todd etc).




 

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Lovely interesting theories, with good reasoning. 

But as far as I know these fellas were 'Townsfolk' through and through.

as I say great theories though  - It could well have been - the Abbey Park Show in Leicester that in those days may well have had agriculture within the show. 

will have to seek out more info.

thanks

Xin

[Jool]

OK

I may have got it all wrong but...

Beyond the three I think I see on the right just under the man's collar part of an ox tail and on the left behind your g g grandfather the back of an ox's head and in between the two men the line of the back of an ox.

Hi Deskman, I first thought there was a creature of some sort in the background, but on closer inspection I think the ox tail is actually the gentleman's tie sticking out, the back of an ox's head is the back of a man's head wearing a cap, and the back of an ox is the back of a man's/boy's head without a cap (probably a boy as he is lower down).  You can just see his ear beyond g. grandfather's shoulder.

I thought they looked like the Peaky Blinders