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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 16 February 18 11:04 GMT (UK) »
Think I have located the 1901 with Catherine as a visitor to Sarah Wealands

The link to Sarah goes back to 1881

Richard Collins 31 tea dealer
Catherine 26
Margeret 8
Sarah 6
Emily 4

All born Newcastle


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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 16 February 18 11:16 GMT (UK) »
1891 down as Collin

Richard 41
Catherine 38
Margaret 18
Sarah 16
Emley 13
Catherine 7
Mary 5
Bella 3
Eliza 1

All born Newcastle bar Richard born Gateshead
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 16 February 18 11:29 GMT (UK) »

Joseph Patrick Daley, born in Carlisle, Cumberland 1879 was a fitter & turner according to his marriage certificate. He appears in the 1881 census in Caldewgate, Cumberland and in the 1891 & 1901 censuses in Westgate, Newcastle upon Tyne. He married Catherine Collins on 21 June 1902 at the Register Office. His father was John Daley, a confectioner, still alive at the time of the marriage.
 

What document has him as Joseph Patrick Daley  :-\

DAILY, JOSEPH  PATRICK     mmn LATIMER     
1879  Sept Quarter in CARLISLE  Volume 10B  Page 484   

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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 16 February 18 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Sorry wrong place  :-[
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 16 February 18 12:11 GMT (UK) »

There is a Joseph Daley who died in Sheffield in 1908, which could be one reason he's no longer on the scene in 1910,

The Joseph Daley who died in Sheffield in 1908 age 28 was a Roman Catholic and buried Grave Number 4181, Section GG of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield.
Other Daley's in the grave James, John Thomas, Julia and Lucy
Thatís great information, thanks. I can probably discount him now.

I have to say that this is the first time Iíve posed a question on here and Iím in awe of the responses. If I seem to be slow in responding I apologise - Iím in Canada and working, so my time zone is different and my time limited, but I appreciate all your help.

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« Reply #23 on: Friday 16 February 18 12:12 GMT (UK) »

Joseph Patrick Daley, born in Carlisle, Cumberland 1879 was a fitter & turner according to his marriage certificate. He appears in the 1881 census in Caldewgate, Cumberland and in the 1891 & 1901 censuses in Westgate, Newcastle upon Tyne. He married Catherine Collins on 21 June 1902 at the Register Office. His father was John Daley, a confectioner, still alive at the time of the marriage.
 

What document has him as Joseph Patrick Daley  :-\

DAILY, JOSEPH  PATRICK     mmn LATIMER     
1879  Sept Quarter in CARLISLE  Volume 10B  Page 484   

(Original requested by me now deleted as I have answered my own question)
Itís also confirmed on his marriage certificate, which he signed Joseph P Daley.

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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #24 on: Friday 16 February 18 12:19 GMT (UK) »
Could you give us a bit more info on Catherine please  :)

You say her father is Richard - is this from the marriage - what was his occupation and who were her other sisters, how did you find out their names? 

What is the name/birthplace of the sister she is visiting in 1901?

I knew Margaretís name from my father who spent a lot of time with her in the 30ís and 40ís. He knew Catherineís and Richardís names from her. Both their marriage certificates confirm Richard. The sister who reported Catherineís death was Elizabeth, who by then had married Arthur Bilbrough. And the sister she stayed with in 1901 was Sarah, as Millipede has already found.

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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #25 on: Friday 16 February 18 14:47 GMT (UK) »
I can see possibilities for Richard in earlier census though born Newcastle.  Still not finding a marriage or childrens birth registrations.  I am wondering if they were registered under their mothers name  :-\
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« Reply #26 on: Friday 16 February 18 17:16 GMT (UK) »
I can see possibilities for Richard in earlier census though born Newcastle.  Still not finding a marriage or childrens birth registrations.  I am wondering if they were registered under their mothers name  :-\

I've been looking for birth registrations under Collins and the marriage between Richard and Catherine (the mother) but have never found anything. It's one of my biggest brick walls.