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Offline jonw65

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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 18 February 18 00:03 GMT (UK) »
The Margaret / Sarah / Emily & Catherine dates tie up, although I'm not seeing any Bella or Elizabeth Mor(r)ell births.

We can perhaps add Mary
March 1886 Newcastle T. 10b 98
Morrell, Mary
mother Doury

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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #46 on: Sunday 18 February 18 08:09 GMT (UK) »
Well done John  :) 

I had tried searching family search for ..... and parents Richard & Catherine in NoT without finding those records before suggesting OP browse the PR's.  Once again you have cracked it with familysearch you always seem to find things that I miss on there  :)

Rosie  :)
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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #47 on: Sunday 18 February 18 11:32 GMT (UK) »
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Children all born Newcastle
Richard's youngest sibling - possible birth reg?
March 1868 Newcastle T. 10b 99
Collins, Isabella
mother Morrel

Taking Sarah Collins born Scotland the mother as Sarah Morrell there is this 1851 entry

John Morrell 46
Isabella 44
Richard 25
Ann 21
Sarah 19
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 18 February 18 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Sarah Morrall
Margaret Bell
David Grieg
William Collins

Marriage Jun 1863 Newcastle

Does that look right or a little too late?  In 1861 Sarah and William already have 3 children
aged 7 - 4 - 2.  Maybe William was married before, he is 8 years older than Sarah, and Richard 7 has a different mother.  Or I am getting confused  :-X
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #49 on: Sunday 18 February 18 16:57 GMT (UK) »
I'm going to have to review that whole Collins ancestry prior to Richard. But I'm still wondering why they would have registered the R+C marriage and the daughters' births as Morell yet the census returns and the 2 daughters' marriage certs, that I have, as Collins. Some interesting family dynamics if this is correct.

Many thanks to all of you for your time and effort on this - it is very much appreciated.

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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #50 on: Friday 23 February 18 17:08 GMT (UK) »
John, you did indeed crack it. I just received the birth certificate for Catherine Morrell, who you suspected was actually Catherine Daley, nee Collins, my g-grandmother, whose death triggered this thread.

The birth is in 1883. The father was Richard Morrell (cartman) - Richard Collins was also a cartman. The family lived at 39 St Nicholas' Churchyard, and when I checked the 1881 census for my Collins family, they were indeed at the same address. I think that's proof enough. Thanks again.

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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #51 on: Friday 23 February 18 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Really pleased that the details match  :)  Well done John

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Re: Wife or Widow?
« Reply #52 on: Friday 23 February 18 21:42 GMT (UK) »
Really pleased that the details match

Me too. Thank you for letting us know! Hope you will now be able to get to the bottom of it all.
Thanks Rosie - it was pure luck!
John