Samuel Popple and Rosina Kreemer

[willsy]

This one popped up first,

Kremer   George Frederick   1859   —   
1906   British Army Service Records   
Westgate, Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England

wife Sarah Jane but the Sarah part is crossed out at 153 Clarendon Place, Dover

[groom]

So is this him 1901? Note the name of one of his daughters. All children born Dover
RG13; Piece: 842; Folio: 88; Page: 34
Dover


George F Kremer   45     General Labourer                  Peterborough
Jane H Kremer           40                                               Dover
Fredrick A Kremer   16
Rose M E Kremer   14
Walter E W Kremer   12
Albert S Kremer            8
Daisy F Kremer            5
Henry J Kremer            3

[avm228]

Yes the Dover connection is interesting - given that that was where his stepmother Mary died later on.

[avm228]

His eldest children:

George Frederick Arthur Kremer, mmn Tyrrell, Mar qtr 1885 Dover
Rose Mary Elizabeth Kremer, mmn Tyrrell, Mar qtr 1887 Dover

[groom]

Marriage

Marriages Mar 1885 
 
KREMER    George Frederick       
Turrell    Jane Hannah       
Dover    2a   1131    

[avm228]

His stepmother Mary Ann Popple (b abt 1844 Portsmouth) was a widowed charwoman in Dover in 1881, with four children - not including George Frederick Kremer.

RG11/1007/11/15.

[groom]

Strange they both end up in Dover isn't it?

[groom]

Looking at his attestation record of 1906, if I'm reading it correctly he says that he was in the South Wales Borderers for almost 9 years and bought himself out and was then in the RA for 12 years and was discharged at the end of his engagement. That could be why he can't be found in earlier censuses.

[avm228]

It looks as though George and Jane had separated by 1911 - he may have taken up with someone else, leaving her with their children.