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Bazil Grange, Liverpool in 1861 census?
« on: Sunday 18 February 18 10:41 GMT (UK) »
I have acquired a cookbook, inscribed for Bazil Grange, 1862; the book was sold by a Liverpool stationer (their sticker is on the first page), and there is indeed a Bazil Grange in West Derby.

https://www.onthemarket.com/details/3715608/

Quite a big pile!

Googling says it was once owned by a "John Caton Thompson of Bazil Grange,West Derby"

it shows nicely on the 1901 OS map;

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.4249&lon=-2.9150&layers=6&b=5

But I have failed to find it in the 1861 census. Can anyone find it?

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Re: Bazil Grange, Liverpool in 1861 census?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 February 18 11:34 GMT (UK) »
On an 1851 Street Index, Brazil Grange is in Sandford Street.

Maybe that may help?
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Re: Bazil Grange, Liverpool in 1861 census?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 February 18 11:41 GMT (UK) »
On an 1851 Street Index, Brazil Grange is in Sandford Street.

Maybe that may help?
I'll give it a go - thank you!

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Re: Bazil Grange, Liverpool in 1861 census?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 February 18 12:34 GMT (UK) »
Not sure but:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7Y2-X2H

There are a couple of newspaper articles (marriages) for the daughters of Thomas ROGERSON giving the address as Bazil Grange.

Earlier mentions are for Bazil Grange..Sandfield Park.

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Re: Bazil Grange, Liverpool in 1861 census?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 February 18 13:12 GMT (UK) »
I found Bazil Grange (labelled) in 1871 census;

Class: RG10/3848/78 Page: 39

James Lister, Banker, b1804, Lancs.

Backtracking to 1861, he was living in a different part of town.  :-[

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Re: Bazil Grange, Liverpool in 1861 census?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 February 18 13:12 GMT (UK) »
Not sure but:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7Y2-X2H

There are a couple of newspaper articles (marriages) for the daughters of Thomas ROGERSON giving the address as Bazil Grange.

Earlier mentions are for Bazil Grange..Sandfield Park.

Maureen
Wow - that looks wonderful - off to follow up now.

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Re: Bazil Grange, Liverpool in 1861 census?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 February 18 13:13 GMT (UK) »
Basil Grange is marked on this 1851 map https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/339328/392382/10/101393

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Re: Bazil Grange, Liverpool in 1861 census?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 February 18 13:44 GMT (UK) »
1851 Census for Thomas Rogerson;

Class: HO107/2192/911 p 29

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Re: Bazil Grange, Liverpool in 1861 census?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 February 18 16:55 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Rogerson died, 26 Dec 1867, aged 64 (BNArchive/Morning Post - Tuesday 31 December 1867 , page 8  )

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