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Ann Okell/Okele
« on: Monday 19 February 18 03:17 GMT (UK) »
Seeking help with this person.

I have Ann Okele married to Thomas Moseley, 23 May 1822 at Davenham Cheshire.
The information I have is that he was baptised 1 Jan 1814 at Church Minsull, Cheshire.
His parents are William Moseley, born 1770, at Minsull, Cheshire, and Elizabeth Hassall, born about 1778 at Chester, Cheshire. At this stage, I do not know her birth year.

I then have Ann Okell married to Thomas Moseley 17 May 1822, at Moulton, Cheshire.
His parents are Thomas Moseley, baptised 5 March 1769 at Acton, Cheshire, and Ann Breeze, born about 1777 in Bartomly, Cheshire. She is born about 1803

Just to add to my confusion, William (1770) and Thomas (1769) are brothers, with parents Robert Moseley, baptised 23 Feb 1740 at Acton, and Ann Manley born about 1742 in Cheshire.

Due to the similarity of the names, and the marriages both in May 1822, I am wondering if there has been a mix up, and Ann Okell/Okele is the same person, married to one of the Thomas Moseley’s. If so, which one?

Any assistance in sorting this out would be very gratefully accepted

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Re: Ann Okell/Okele
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 February 18 06:25 GMT (UK) »
Ann was a minor and a licence for the marriage was issued on the 17 May.
The actual marriage took place 22 May so one and the same person.
If you have access to FindMyPast you can view both records. ;)
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Re: Ann Okell/Okele
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 February 18 06:47 GMT (UK) »
The Cheshire Parish register has Thomas aged 24 so born about 1798
Ann was 19 so born about 1803.
The curate was George Okell, was he a relation?

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Re: Ann Okell/Okele
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 February 18 08:16 GMT (UK) »
The Okells seem to have been a well known family around the area, a couple or so of my ancestors wills were either witnessed by the Okells or they were witnesses in the mid to late 1800s.


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Re: Ann Okell/Okele
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 February 18 08:40 GMT (UK) »
Okell's is still the major brewer on the Isle of Man ;D

So just a note: Okell rhymes with oak ;)
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Re: Ann Okell/Okele
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 February 18 09:09 GMT (UK) »
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So just a note: Okell rhymes with oak

The woman who replaced a beloved headmistress when I was in the 2nd year of grammar school (in Cheshire) was called Miss Okell.  I have to say she was not well liked and was, apparently, chosen as she was an old girl of the school.  We're talking 1954 here, and I doubt headteachers of state schools are chosen on that criteria now.


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Re: Ann Okell/Okele
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 February 18 09:55 GMT (UK) »
I'm a bit confused here.

You have Thomas Bapt 1814?

1851/1861 Thomas is born c 1801 Betchton/Birchton
1871 c 1800 Landbach (Sandbach)

THOS Moseley
Baptism Date: 28 Dec 1800 Sandbach ( birth 28 Nov 1800)
Parents THOS/ANN

Thomas was buried  1 Oct 1875 Wybunbury age 75

1841 Thomas Parents are under MORLEY on Anc.
1851 Ann Moseley is born c 1774 Bartomly (sic) and a Widow. Unm Son and Daug are with her.
Son John and Family are next door.

Ann OKELL was likely Bapt  8 JUL 1803 Davenham to PETER/MARY
Peter married Mary JACKSON 17 April 1803   

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Re: Ann Okell/Okele
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 February 18 02:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your input.

roinora: Thank you for that information. I will have to get to the library to check that out, as I do not have FindMyPast at home. At this stage I am just trying to sort out the two of them.

LizzieW: You are very probably correct, as I have just realised that a different branch has an Okel involved, in Staffordshire.

KG: I would never have known how to pronounce it, other than as spelt.

trish1120: I can fully understand your confusion, that being the reason for the post. I was thinking that the records had got mixed up, with the two Thomas Moseley's.
I will have to go through the records again, with a closer eye to the people next door, as I had not noticed that. Thank you for pointing that out.
I had not followed up on the Okele/Olell side too closely as yet, as I was following the Moseley lines.

Again, many thanks to all, for your help and interest.

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Re: Ann Okell/Okele
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 20 February 18 13:51 GMT (UK) »
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So just a note: Okell rhymes with oak

The woman who replaced a beloved headmistress when I was in the 2nd year of grammar school (in Cheshire) was called Miss Okell.  I have to say she was not well liked and was, apparently, chosen as she was an old girl of the school.  We're talking 1954 here, and I doubt headteachers of state schools are chosen on that criteria now.

My friend went to the same school!! I still have contact with my friend (we lived 4 doors away from each other). She comes out to Switzerland once a year and when I once mentioned Miss Okell, she said something to the same effect.

I was at a school on the "other side of the hill" ;D
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