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Re: Looking for Burial details
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 07:27 GMT (UK) »
I have updated the link

Surrey history centre appear to have some newspapers which may have an obituary

https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/heritage-culture-and-recreation/archives-and-history/surrey-history-centre/help-for-researchers/research-guides/papers-back-issues

Probably the Staines & Egham News, I am not sure if the Middlesex Chronicle covered the area
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Re: Looking for Burial details
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 07:31 GMT (UK) »
Am I right in thinking that St. Mary's might be Catholic? Although I have no proof of Rhoda's own affiliation, I do know her parents and siblings were Anglican. Nothing in her will to suggest where her final resting  place might be.

St Mary's is C of E    http://www.stainesparish.org.uk/about-us/our-churches/st-mary/

Are you in the UK your profile does not give your location.  It is a good idea to give us some idea on your profile of your location as it stops us from suggesting you visit places that could be the other side of the world.
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Re: Looking for Burial details
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 08:51 GMT (UK) »
 :) Rosie, you are right. I am on the "other side of the world'. I was born and live in New Zealand.

Here is a little bit on the family I am trying to put together. Rhoda's sister Mary Ursula Bethell was a poet of some distinction in NZ.  https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/186414674/mary-ursula-bethell

There is quite a bit about Mary in Te Ara https://teara.govt.nz/en/biographies/4b29/bethell-mary-ursula


Her brother Marmaduke was a distinguished farmer in Culverden. Rhoda is the one I am having difficulty with.  Her name is listed in Findmypast, but I am not a member, so the index is all I can see. FamilySearch, of which I am a member, has her probate, but little else on her life.

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Re: Looking for Burial details
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 11:31 GMT (UK) »
IS this your lady in the 1911 census living in south Kensington with her mother Isabel age 67 a widow   born in Tasmania

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Re: Looking for Burial details
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Could well be. The family had some means and appeared to do a fair bit of travelling. Rhoda's birth was registered in New Zealand however, but that doesn't mean she wasn't born in Tasmania unless the enumerator got it wrong. NZBDM record 1879/13757   Bethell    Rhoda DOB 11/3/1879   Isabel   Richard. 
Nelson, a probable birthplace is in the Tasman district of New Zealand.
The obituary on Brother Marmaduke has a confusing statement.
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Mr Bethell was born at Nelson on November 18, 1976, and was the only son of Richard and Isabel Bethell. Richard Bethell was then the owner of a property which he called Burnham, after his birthplace, Burnham Beeches, in Surrey, and this is how Burnham in Canterbury derives its name.
He's on the NZBDM register as born Nelson New Zealand, so the reference to Burnham Beeches may be a reference to the family "seat" or the birthplace of his father who died in New Zealand    30 Apr 1885; and, yes Isabel was certainly a widow in 1911

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Re: Looking for Burial details
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 07:20 GMT (UK) »
Did Richard Bethell marry Isabel Anne Lillie in 1873  :-\  The marriage licence for that couple gives Richard of Shopwycke, Sussex & Isabel of Mayfair.
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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 09:00 GMT (UK) »
I don't have marriage details for them, but 1873 is very likely as Mary Ursula was born in 1874.
From FamilySearch  Richard Bethell
mentioned in the record of Mary Ursula Bethell
Name:   Richard Bethell
Sex:   Male
Wife:   Isabel Anne
Daughter:   Mary Ursula Bethell
Other information in the record of Mary Ursula Bethell
from England Births and Christenings

Name:   Mary Ursula Bethell
Gender:   Female
Christening Date:   25 Nov 1874
Christening Date (Original):   25 NOV 1874
Christening Place:   HORSELL,SURREY,ENGLAND
Father's Name:   Richard Bethell
Mother's Name:   Isabel Anne

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Re: Looking for Burial details
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 09:45 GMT (UK) »
Mary Ursula Bethell (looks like Bothell)  baptised 25 November 1874 at St Mary's Horsell parents Richard &  Isabel Anne occ 'Esq'  abode Horsell.  Image on Ancestry.

I was really hoping there would have been an 'address' on that record - I lived in Horsell and was married at St Mary's  :)
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