Patrick stephen mansfield

[mulberryhouse40]

In a previous post Sinann asked whether I had had a look at 1911 census  for stephen mansfield which I did and have now found a Stephen Mansfield in 1871 census. It also has him as a wood carver living in Hume Manchester age 27  and Agnes laroche is also there . That all fits in with Patrick Stephen Mansfield.  However it then states that Stephen was from New York and also my understanding was that  Patrick and Agnes married in 1870!!!!

[heywood]

I mentioned 1871 in reply #7.

The names are mixed up- it shows Mary Mansfield as wife when, presumably, she is Agnes’ mother.
The householder probably gave the information.
It is strange re New York though without any further information.

They were married in 1870 - do you have the certificate as you know his father’s name?

[mulberryhouse40]

I think I will order a marriage certificate then that will confirm the father’s name and employment. It may not get us much further back but will confirm a few things. Thank you all so much for your help so far.

Regards

Gill
Ps this site is very valuable and so many helpful people

[heywood]

This index shows father as James - may be you got it there.

Patrick is named as father for several baptisms and also possibly as a marriage witness in 1869 to Michael Power and Ann Parker, certainly as a witness to a Lariche wedding and possibly as a godfather in 1867 to a Margaret McGrath.

http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/data/catholic_search.php

[ballydw]

The church registers in midleton are as stated previously by Heywood for baptisms to James Mansfield & Mary Donovan.  No marriage record for James & Mary they could have married in a different parish.
The scenario of Patrick Stephen stating on the Census that he originated in New York is quite puzzling - Gill where did you get Cork from?

[heywood]

Here it is ballydw

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWBF-CRH

1911 index

[ballydw]

tks heywood going by name Stephen on this census

[heywood]

Yes and he is Stephen in 1871 too. This is only part of the household.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBJW-9JT

1881 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27P-9KCP
Patrick S

And those Manchester parish records have him as Patrick S

[mulberryhouse40]

Thank you for helping so many questions,,,Cork/new York, Stephen/Patrick.  Laroche is definate

Thank you