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Offline Nigel Porter

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Missing Asher family
« on: Tuesday 20 February 18 21:03 GMT (UK) »
My GG Uncle Joseph Asher (b.1848 Helpringham - d ?) moved to London between 1861 and 1866 when he married Emma Meacham (b. 1845 Wolverton -d.1907 Heckington) on 11th July 1866 in Islington. In 1871 they are living in West Ham with 3 children (Joseph b.1866 Islington, Emma Rosina b.1868 Islington and George b. 1870 Plaistow).  However by 1881 Joseph is a lodger in Islington, but his family are living in Paddington and it appears that Emma has remarried to John Summers and they have a son James (b. 1880, possible baptism 8 Jan 1880).  Living with Emma are the Asher children Joseph, George and Lizzie (I think?) (b. 1873 Paddington) and Emma Rosina had moved back to Lincolnshire.  I have traced Emma Rosina and Joseph junior after 1881, but the others are a mystery.

So my questions are?

Where was Joseph senior after 1880?
I can't find a marriage between Emma and John Summers, or them and their family after 1881?
I'm struggling to find George or Lizzie Asher after 1881?

All help gratefully received.

Thanks
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Re: Missing Asher family
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 February 18 21:31 GMT (UK) »
George was registered as John William George, so may be lurking somewhere under that name

I'm not finding Joseph in Islington on 1881

The last Asher/Meacham child I find is ELiza b 1873 in Kensington - presumably your Lizzie

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Re: Missing Asher family
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 February 18 21:49 GMT (UK) »
James is registered with mmn Asher
Q1 1880 KENSINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 16

Some more potential children

SUMMERS, ALICE        mmn MEACHEM        
Q1 1882  KENSINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 55
Baptism 30 March 1882 to John, labourer and Emma

SUMMERS, FREDERICK  JOHN      mmn MEACHEN        
Q1 1884   KENSINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 186
Baptism 20 Feb 1884 to John a stableman, and Emma

SUMMERS, ANNIE        mmn ASHER      
Q3 1885 PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 30

SUMMERS, HENRY  WILLIAM      mmn ASHER      
Q1 1887   PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 40

SUMMERS, ROSE        mmn ASHER      
Q1 1889 PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 37

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Re: Missing Asher family
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 February 18 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Asker in the 1881 index?
There's a Joseph Asher died in New Zealand in 1919, age 70. No idea if it's the right one.

That one does feature in NZ newspapers, wife was Hannah. A daughter Annie Bilton Asher was born in NZ in 1883. A methodist and freemason.
Not promising?

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Re: Missing Asher family
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 February 18 22:14 GMT (UK) »
No idea if it's the right one.

It isn't! I think he may be the one who married Hannah Read in Grantham in 1871

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Re: Missing Asher family
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 20 February 18 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Possible sightings of James, ALice and Frederick in the Fulham workhouse in APril and Oct 1890 - admitted togtehr.

Also 1891 - ALice Summers b c1883 is an inmate in the St Pancras [workhouse] school in Leavensden, Watford


An alternative option is

1891 - Stoney Stratford

John Hooton    35
Ellen Hooton    40
Harry Hooton    7 -  b Wolverton
Herbert Hooton    5
Fredk Hooton    2
James Somers    10 - boarder, b Fulham, orphan
Alice Somers    9 - boarder, b Fulham, orphan

1901 the Hootons have one Frederick Somers b London c1883 living with them

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Re: Missing Asher family
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 February 18 22:33 GMT (UK) »
Possible death of Emma?

Name:    Emma Summers
Born c1845
Registration    Apr-May-Jun 1889
Age    44
Pancras Volume 1b page 24

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Re: Missing Asher family
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 12:13 GMT (UK) »
On A*try London Transport Staff Registers, 1863-1931 there's a listing for Joseph ASHER born ~1847 an "outside? policeman" formerly guard for something I can't make out. However,it says he died March 6,1885. I do not see a likely matching death. ???

Maureen

EDIT: There's a 36 yr old John ASHER who dies in Islington March Qtr 1885,though.

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Re: Missing Asher family
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 12:49 GMT (UK) »
I think you've cracked it Maureen!
Burial at Islington Cemetery, 10 March 1885 of a Joseph Asher.
And the Joseph in Islington in 1881 was a Railway Guard.
John