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Re: William Armstrong of Molla Burn, Chollerton
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 16:43 GMT (UK) »
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If this probate is him, then I also have an estimated birth year of 1777 now

Both the GRO index and his burial record http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lma/ give his age at death as 73, which by my calculation makes him born c.1793 if he died 1866  :-\

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I am fairly certain this is the same William as a) heís a farmer

He's a farm labourer in 1866, which isn't the same thing  :)

Might this be him in 1861  :-\  :-\ ( I haven't followed this one through at all)

RG9 / 3868 / 134 / 17

Wellhaugh, Kielder

(amongst many other railway labourers)

William Armstrong, lodger, m, 68, railway labourer, Northumberland

Iíll have a look at this tonight thanks
I did have a look at Mallow Burn occupants for 1861 and 1871 and neither of the two families at that address in those years seemed to be a known link to William. There was an Armstrong at Gunnerton Hill Head however, which was an extra after Mallow Burn in one of the census, but again, not an Armstrong I recognise or have on my tree as yet. Iím curious to know why he was there in 1866, in what capacity, was it family or was he lodging. Also why all those years living away from his wife.
Robson (NBL ENGLAND); Armstrong (NBL ENGLAND);Richardson (NBL ENGLAND); Money (NFK & NBL ENGLAND); Gibson (NBL ENGLAND);
Swoish/Swash (NFK ENGLAND);Reed (NBL ENGLAND);
Watson (NBL ENGLAND); Church (NFK ENGLAND); Trobe/Trollop (NBL ENGLAND); Lowes (NBL ENGLAND);
Sherwood (NBL ENGLAND); Harrison (NBL ENGLAND)

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Re: William Armstrong of Molla Burn, Chollerton
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 17:39 GMT (UK) »
I see that on his son's marriage cert. of 1854 William is described as a quarryman
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=784356.msg6392437#msg6392437

so....  one to think about  :-\

1851 census

HO 107 / 2411 / 76 / 35
Richard Street, Longbenton

in the household of Hannah Taylor, widow and her brother Thomas Forster, a journeyman stonemason

William Armstrong, lodger, m, 54, stone cutter, Northumberland Chollerton

in the 1841 census, have you discounted:

HO 107 / 837/19/9/11
Birtley Village  (some 8 miles n. of Chollerton)

William Armstrong, 40*, Ag. lab., Y

*ages were rounded down so he could have been anything up to 44 years old.
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Re: William Armstrong of Molla Burn, Chollerton
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 18:11 GMT (UK) »
Interestingly, I see that on the baptism of his daughter, Mary Ann, at Chollerton in 1828 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lmb/
William's residence is given as Burn Mouth, which is a very short distance south from Mollaburn
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=55.0663&lon=-2.1599&layers=6&right=BingHyb
and
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=389336&Y=575205&A=Y&Z=120 (look above and below the arrow)
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Re: William Armstrong of Molla Burn, Chollerton
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 22 February 18 00:47 GMT (UK) »
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If this probate is him, then I also have an estimated birth year of 1777 now

Both the GRO index and his burial record http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lma/ give his age at death as 73, which by my calculation makes him born c.1793 if he died 1866  :-\

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I am fairly certain this is the same William as a) heís a farmer

He's a farm labourer in 1866, which isn't the same thing  :)

Might this be him in 1861  :-\  :-\ ( I haven't followed this one through at all)

RG9 / 3868 / 134 / 17

Wellhaugh, Kielder

(amongst many other railway labourers)

William Armstrong, lodger, m, 68, railway labourer, Northumberland

Thanks for the burial record, this does make him born circa 1793. The 1861 census looks like a distinct possibility, its near where he was living, he's working as a labourer and he is listed as married.
Robson (NBL ENGLAND); Armstrong (NBL ENGLAND);Richardson (NBL ENGLAND); Money (NFK & NBL ENGLAND); Gibson (NBL ENGLAND);
Swoish/Swash (NFK ENGLAND);Reed (NBL ENGLAND);
Watson (NBL ENGLAND); Church (NFK ENGLAND); Trobe/Trollop (NBL ENGLAND); Lowes (NBL ENGLAND);
Sherwood (NBL ENGLAND); Harrison (NBL ENGLAND)

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Re: William Armstrong of Molla Burn, Chollerton
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 22 February 18 00:59 GMT (UK) »
Interestingly, I see that on the baptism of his daughter, Mary Ann, at Chollerton in 1828 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lmb/
William's residence is given as Burn Mouth, which is a very short distance south from Mollaburn
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=55.0663&lon=-2.1599&layers=6&right=BingHyb
and
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=389336&Y=575205&A=Y&Z=120 (look above and below the arrow)
Thanks Jen B. Also, I have bookmarked your National Library of Scotland Map site, very useful!
Robson (NBL ENGLAND); Armstrong (NBL ENGLAND);Richardson (NBL ENGLAND); Money (NFK & NBL ENGLAND); Gibson (NBL ENGLAND);
Swoish/Swash (NFK ENGLAND);Reed (NBL ENGLAND);
Watson (NBL ENGLAND); Church (NFK ENGLAND); Trobe/Trollop (NBL ENGLAND); Lowes (NBL ENGLAND);
Sherwood (NBL ENGLAND); Harrison (NBL ENGLAND)