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Offline TwiggyTree

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Re: Carl Leopold Anderson
« Reply #45 on: Friday 23 February 18 07:43 GMT (UK) »
Beg / Louisa

This letter pre-dates his naturalisation file, as it says in that note "The applicant should be informed of the correct mode of application" and is 1867.

His naturalisation was 1869 as per reply #12.

So I would still go for that Wellington Archives look-up myself.

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Re: Carl Leopold Anderson
« Reply #46 on: Friday 23 February 18 09:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Twiggy., my son lives in Wellington will ask him...

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Re: Carl Leopold Anderson
« Reply #47 on: Friday 23 February 18 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Twiggy...

I'll have to hand my enigma machine back cos I scoured Archway for anything resembling your 1869 reference and found nothing.

To quote Lucy .... Result:  Nil  :)

I'm guessing you found the reference on the fiche. I don't have it to hand but was that the entire reference. Not doubting you :) but as I understand it the I should read IA and the 115 seems to be post-1938 naturalisations.

The 1869/671 is an "obvious" year/record reference but comes up blank, even when throwing it into all of the other search boxes.

And the obvious search of Carl limited to 1869 is a bust too.

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Beg

P.S Will be mightily embarrassed when someone links to the file :-)

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Re: Carl Leopold Anderson
« Reply #48 on: Friday 23 February 18 18:26 GMT (UK) »
Beg - here is the page of the naturalisation register, with Carl's listing. When I tracked down Walter BRUNGOT, I found that his file was bound with another, and indexed under the name on the other.

John
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland

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Re: Carl Leopold Anderson
« Reply #49 on: Friday 23 February 18 20:27 GMT (UK) »
Index listings  >  from  >

New Zealand Naturalisatons  1843-1981 :  [Source:   ancestry.com ]

Name:    Carl L. ANDERSEN
Occupation :   Storekeeper
Residence city :  Wellington
Naturalisaton date :   16 March 1869


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Name:  Carl Edward ANDERSEN
Birth :  about 1843
Age :  26 years
Birthplace :   Coeteborg,  Sweden
Occupation :  Storekeeper
Residence city :   Wellington
Naturalisation date :   16 March 1869
File number :    1869 / 671
Certificate register  :   1
Register page number :  115

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[Note:  Exactly as written in the index listing.  ]

   ~  Lu




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Re: Carl Leopold Anderson
« Reply #50 on: Friday 23 February 18 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Hello John and Lucy...

Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that Archives had digitised the pre-1949 Naturalisation Register. Good to know.

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If you take the second entry (Joseph AMREIN) and enter his record # 1908/3145 into the Advanced Search on Archway he pops up no problem.

If you take the thirteenth entry (Eduard Andrew ARCHER) and enter his record # 1868/2245 into the Advanced Search on Archway he too pops up no problem (although as Edward, not Eduard).

If you take the first entry (Frank AMODEO) and enter his record # 1869/3185 into the self-same Advanced Search on Archway it reurns the dreaded "Sorry, there are no results for this search".

And the same goes for our man Carl Leopold ANDERSON (1869/671). "Sorry, there are no results for this search"

This sort of eases my mind as it means there is a disconnect between the pre-1949 Naturalisation Register and the Archway search engine.

Regarding our current search, I think the answer is in this link...

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General Inwards Correspondence to the Colonial Secretary
Record No. 1869/605-837

Open Access
This record is missing

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=21582282

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Record numbers 1869/605 to 1869/837 are listed as missing. Obviously not all are missing as a simple search with 1869 as the record number brings up a dozen hits between 1869/605 and 1869/837. But that still leaves a couple of hundred records unaccounted for. I'm guessing our man Carl's record is one of them.

One good thing is that it could still mean that Sten AMINOFF was working off Carl's Memorial when he compiled Svenska in NZ in the late 70's. The records might have gone missing since then....anyway that's my theory :-)

Regards
Beg

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Re: Carl Leopold Anderson
« Reply #51 on: Friday 23 February 18 22:46 GMT (UK) »
Beg - we found Walter's file by checking the names of the other people granted citizenship on the same day.... the topic is here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=774836.msg6282328#msg6282328
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland

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Re: Carl Leopold Anderson
« Reply #52 on: Saturday 24 February 18 01:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi John...

So page 191 of Issue 22 of the 1869 NZ Gazette lists five gentlemen (see attached image).

Cross-referencing with the Naturalisation Register and Archway gives the following results...

David BLUNK
1870/3479 - Date: 15 December 1870 - Subject: Oath of allegiance and fee (1) [naturalisation of Diedrich Blunk or David Blunk]
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=24214897


Henry KURSHLIT
1869/751 - Date: 15 March 1869 - Subject: Naturalisation Memorial Oath of Henry Kurshlit
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=24208127

1869/917 - Date: 3 April 1869 - Subject: Naturalisation Oath of Henry Kurshlit
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=24208126


James SCMIT
1869/622 - Archway search says "Sorry, there are no results for this search"


Johannes GRAFF
1869/823 - Archway search says "Sorry, there are no results for this search"


Carl Leopold ANDERSON
1869/671 - Archway search says "Sorry, there are no results for this search"


So do you think the David BLUNK 1870(?) file and the two Henry KURSHLIT files are worth a punt?

Regards
Beg

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Re: Carl Leopold Anderson
« Reply #53 on: Saturday 24 February 18 02:43 GMT (UK) »
Beg - definitely worth checking.

John.
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland