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Beatrice Ash, Hiam
« on: Wednesday 21 February 18 14:19 GMT (UK) »
In 1895 George Ash married Beatrice Hiam in Gloucester.  They appear to have had 2 children

Beatrice Maud born 1896 and Victor Percy born 1904

On the GRO Record site, Beatrice's mother's maiden surname is Burford. (there is no record of George Ash marring anyone with the surname of Burford)

Victor's mother's maiden name is Hiam.

Any help would be appreciated

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Re: Beatrice Ash, Hiam
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 14:23 GMT (UK) »
(there is no record of George Ash marring anyone with the surname of Burford)

Surely Beatrice being the widow of a mr Hiam would explain the anomaly.

What is Beatrice's birthyear/birthplace?
Was Beatrice born to an unwed mother? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J74P-CHG
Did her mother marry a burford (her stepfather?) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DL8-B59
   
Henrietta Hiam
George Burford,

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Re: Beatrice Ash, Hiam
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Don't see any marriages for Beatrice marrying a Hiam so far - or alternative.

I wonder if George's mother was a Burford and George was the informant and got his names mixed up - Registrar asked him for mother's mn and he gave his own mother's.

Add - I see that Pauline has added another alternative after I submitted.
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Re: Beatrice Ash, Hiam
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 14:28 GMT (UK) »
The child born in 1896 seems to have been Gwendoline Maud, rather than Beatrice Maud.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Beatrice Ash, Hiam
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 14:34 GMT (UK) »
Yes AVM, you are correct my mistake.  Gwendoline was baptised on the 10th June 1896 at St Luke's Gloucester, gives Beatrice and George as parents.
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Re: Beatrice Ash, Hiam
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 14:53 GMT (UK) »
On the banns for George and Beatrice she is recorded as spinster.

On the marriage cert Beatrice's father is George Hiam.

It would be advisable to purchase the BC for Gwendoline to establish who her mother was.

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Re: Beatrice Ash, Hiam
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 15:04 GMT (UK) »
Does the 1895 marriage certificate give any witnesses or occupation for George (her father) ?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27X-5TSY  (1881 census, with Beatrice Burford/? Hiam)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W19G-ZT2 (1891 with Beatrice Burford/ Hiam)

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1901 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSDB-ZZ7  with Gwendoline M Ash   Grand Daughter   
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Re: Beatrice Ash, Hiam
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 15:11 GMT (UK) »
Does the 1895 marriage certificate give any witnesses or occupation for George (her father) ?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27X-5TSY  (1881 census, with Beatrice Burford/? Hiam)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W19G-ZT2 (1891 with Beatrice Burford/ Hiam)

The occupation of George Hiam/Burford is a Horse Dealer which ties in with the 1891 as above  :)

Wits - Agnes Ida Hiam and Arthur Bridle.

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Re: Beatrice Ash, Hiam
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 15:19 GMT (UK) »
Marriage (further details) -

Henrietta Hiam
Marriage Age - 21
5 Oct 1872, St James, Gloucester
Father - Charles Hiam, Builder
Spouse - George Burford, Horse Dealer
Age - 22
Spouse's father - Henry Burford, Horse Dealer
Wits - John Hiam and Lucy Stait

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