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Whatever happened to baby Alfred FIELD of Patching?
« on: Thursday 22 February 18 17:04 GMT (UK) »
Alfred Charles FIELD was baptised at the church of St John the Divine, Patching, on 1 May 1887. At the time his mother, Alice FIELD, was an unmarried servant aged 17 years.

This baptism entry is the only record I have of Alfred's existence. I have failed to find him in the 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses, in the civil registration births and deaths indices, and I cannot find a burial for him in the church records of Patching and nearby parishes.

Please, can anyone out there find any other record of him?

There is a birth registration index entry for an Alfred Charles HAYNES at East Preston in the March quarter of 1887. Could he be identified as the child baptised at Patching? Is there any other record of Alfred HAYNES that could answer that question one way or the other?

Thanks for any help.
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Re: Whatever happened to baby Alfred FIELD of Patching?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 February 18 17:11 GMT (UK) »
From the GRO index, that Alfred Charles' mother's maiden name was Cregan
HAYNES, ALFRED  CHARLES     CREGAN 
GRO Reference: 1887  M Quarter in EAST PRESTON  Volume 02B  Page 341
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Whatever happened to baby Alfred FIELD of Patching?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 February 18 17:16 GMT (UK) »
There is this birth registration for a child with surname Field, no mothers maiden name so probably illegitimate

JOHN ALFRED JOHNSON FIELD - no mmn

1887  June Quarter in EAST PRESTON  Volume 02B  Page 379   

I have not yet looked for him later
 
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Re: Whatever happened to baby Alfred FIELD of Patching?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 February 18 15:13 GMT (UK) »
Have you found Alice in 1891 and did she marry?
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Re: Whatever happened to baby Alfred FIELD of Patching?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 February 18 15:18 GMT (UK) »
This looks like her, back with her parents

1891
Arundel Road, Patching
Henry Fields 47 Ag lab bn Angmering
Betsy 40 bn Patching
Alice 21 dtr general domestic servant  bn Patching
George 17 ag lab bn Pat'ing
Rignold 15 bn P'ing
Minnie 13 bn P
Foster 10 bn P
Percy 8 bn P
Claudie 5 bn P
John Berry lodger
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Whatever happened to baby Alfred FIELD of Patching?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 February 18 15:19 GMT (UK) »
Doesn't give an age at baptism does it only there is an earlier birth

Alfred Charles John Field no mothers name shown Jun 1883 East Preston
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Re: Whatever happened to baby Alfred FIELD of Patching?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 February 18 15:22 GMT (UK) »
Hmm, initial post said she was 17 in 1887, so would only have been 13 in 1883......
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Whatever happened to baby Alfred FIELD of Patching?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 February 18 15:34 GMT (UK) »
2 Alice Field marriages in East Preston but we have no middle name for 'our' Alice.
Marriages Sep 1896 
Field    Alice Faith        E. Preston    2b   631    
Marriages Dec 1899   
FIELD    Alice Knight        E. Preston    2b   768
and 1 in Brighton
Marriages Jun 1892 
FIELD    Alice Kate        Brighton    2b   474
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Whatever happened to baby Alfred FIELD of Patching?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 February 18 15:38 GMT (UK) »
I wondered if the youngest little chap in 1891 Claudie was masquerading as a son instead of a grandson but he has mothers name Berry like the rest. 

I can't see an image of the baptism only a transcription but would it give an age for the mother, I mean how do we know this Alice is the right mother  :-\
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