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Help needed to find Ellen Roberts Parents
« on: Saturday 24 February 18 14:50 GMT (UK) »
Hoping someone can help me find the parents of Ellen Roberts born 6/4/1879 Llanbedr, Caernarvonshire.
Ellen married Thomas Owen 1902 Llanrwst and on the 1911 Census & 1939 Register lived at Tyn y Ffordd Bach Llanrwst.
Thanks for any help.

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Re: Help needed to find Ellen Roberts Parents
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 24 February 18 14:54 GMT (UK) »
What have you got already?
Have you found her on 1881/1891/1901?
You have an exact birth date - what is the source of that, did that not give her parents?
Did she have siblings?
Who did she name as father on marriage?

I had a quick look on gro index to try to get mothers maiden name, but their are lots of Ellen Roberts born in Wlaes then!!!
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
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Re: Help needed to find Ellen Roberts Parents
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 February 18 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your answer lizdb. I got her DOB from the 1939 Register and the only Census I found her on is the 1911 when she had married Thomas Owen. That is were I got her place of birth from, so I know nothing of her siblings or parents. I haven't bought the marriage certificate yet as I was hoping perhaps someone on Rootschat would be able to locate her on the 1901/1891/1881 Census or help with suggestions as to how to locate her and her birth family.

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Re: Help needed to find Ellen Roberts Parents
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 February 18 15:39 GMT (UK) »
With such a common name it's best to get the marriage really as it's very easy to go down the wrong road.

ancestry hints to this 1891 census entry

Ellen Roberts age 12
daughter of John Roberts 49 widower boot and shoe dealer

birth places for both are Portmadoc

7 brothers and sisters plus a servant in the household 

If you do get the marriage and father's name and occupation match then it's a promising start.
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Re: Help needed to find Ellen Roberts Parents
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 February 18 15:42 GMT (UK) »
Siblings names were Dorothy - Roberth (might be Robert W) - Annie R - Jane - John - Joseph - Mary.

If Ellen had a daughter called Dorothy that might be positive as the others are more common names.

Jane is a twin to Ellen.  In 1881 they are both 2 and father John has a wife Jemmima. 

Ellen is not with her father and siblings in 1901.
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Re: Help needed to find Ellen Roberts Parents
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 24 February 18 15:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Millipede for looking but Llanbedr is near Llanrwst, Caernarvonshire. Ellen's children had ordinary names Robert, Anne, Jane, Margaret, Ellen, & William. As you say it looks like I may have to buy the certificate. I was hoping someone could turn up the baptism with me having the DOB, which would narrow down the possible Ellen Roberts, there are so many of them  :-\

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Re: Help needed to find Ellen Roberts Parents
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 24 February 18 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Someone may locate a baptism for you, it does help that you have an exact date to go by. 
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Re: Help needed to find Ellen Roberts Parents
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 24 February 18 16:05 GMT (UK) »
F M P have Caernarvonshire baptisms for Llanbedr-Y-Cennin (Is that the same place  :-\ ) but none for an Ellen/Eleanor etc  with that year of birth

Rosie (who is rubbish with Welsh places)  ;D
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Re: Help needed to find Ellen Roberts Parents
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 24 February 18 16:18 GMT (UK) »
Not that bad Rosie, it is the same place, thanks for pointing it out  ;)