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Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« on: Saturday 24 February 18 21:45 GMT (UK) »
I am searching for a marriage between John H Meadth (b. Ireland, 1851) and Sarah Owens (b. Ireland, 1852).

Sarah had been previously married before to Samuel Owens in 1872, Belfast. In 1874 they had their first child whom was born in Pendleton, Lancashire, and by the time their final child was born in 1885 they had 4 living children together. Samuel died but I don't know when (or how).

In 1881 census they are living at 16 Tindal Street (or Tyndal St) in Manchester but cannot find (at least) Sarah in 1891 census.

I next find Sarah in 1901 living and married to John H Meadth but cannot find their registration of marriage. I can only assume that they were married in the Manchester area. In 1894 Sarah had an illegitimate child and whilst 1901 census lists Robert as Meadth, we don't believe John was the father!
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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 24 February 18 21:49 GMT (UK) »
Why is it you don't believe John was the father?  Is he to be found elsewhere in 1891? 

I wouldn't assume they were legally married they may have just lived together as man n wife. 
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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 February 18 21:55 GMT (UK) »
Why is it you don't believe John was the father?  Is he to be found elsewhere in 1891? 

I wouldn't assume they were legally married they may have just lived together as man n wife.

I was thinking that maybe they just said that they were married but wanted to rule that one out. I thought someone with more experience may find something that I hadn't.

I don't believe John is the father as Robert's marriage cert says father unknown. Also in 1901 census Robert is listed as Stepson in relation to head of household.
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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 February 18 21:55 GMT (UK) »
Is Robert Meadth the child born 1894 - does the birth registration give her maiden name Porter?

(I can't see a birth for Meadth)
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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 February 18 21:57 GMT (UK) »
1901 census has Robert down as a stepson along with John Meadth 18 and Kate Meadth 16 so who are they?! 

There's a birth registration for Robert Owens mothers name Porter so that assumes Samuel Owens her husband was the father.
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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 24 February 18 22:00 GMT (UK) »
1901 - RG13/3718 folio 125 page 39

Except for John Meadth, aged 18, born Ireland, all other children are designated as step-children - Owens and Meadth.
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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 24 February 18 22:02 GMT (UK) »
Is Robert Meadth the child born 1894 - does the birth registration give her maiden name Porter?

(I can't see a birth for Meadth)

I haven't found a registration of birth but Robert is a direct descendant for the family member whom I am researching this tree for. I would also suspect his mothers name could be listed as Owens
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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 24 February 18 22:05 GMT (UK) »
1901 - RG13/3718 folio 125 page 39

Except for John Meadth, aged 18, born Ireland, all other children are designated as step-children - Owens and Meadth.

I am aware of this - most where to Samuel Owens and Robert's father is unknown. We suspect they 'lied' about there surname so it didn't look funny with so many names in one household.

Although another question strikes me. When did it become legal to change your name by deed-poll?
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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 24 February 18 22:06 GMT (UK) »
I have added it above.  There is one in Salford Sep 1894.
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